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post #1 of 19 Old 03-10-2011, 11:45 PM Thread Starter
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Question about shifting

So ive only had my bike a few days, doing really well all things considered. Im a NEW rider.

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I have found it so easy to downshift without using the clutch simply by pressing pedal downwards. Is that bad or normal? If rpms are not to high or slowing it just seems too easy. Is that how its done or are you supposed to use the clutch ALWAYS?

Keep in mind im new, so take it easy on me lol.
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post #2 of 19 Old 03-11-2011, 12:12 AM
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I don't use the clutch much at all on my dirt bike but I tend to use the clutch on my KLR almost always. Just seems smoother for me. The KLR has a lot of torque, it's probably easier on the tranny gears if you use the clutch to smooth out the shift.

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post #3 of 19 Old 03-11-2011, 04:39 AM
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The clutch/no clutch debate ranks up there with which oil is best and should I use chain lube or just keep my chain clean.

I find upshifting smoother when I don't clutch.
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On the street, I would suggest using the clutch. If you downshift too fast, the rear wheel can lock up and skid and you could possibly lose control. Being a new riding, I would suggest pulling in the clutch, downshifting a couple gears, and let the clutch out to slow you down. It will become second nature in time.

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Since you are a NEW rider I'd suggest you don't start off taking short cuts. Learn to ride properly and like it was mentioned before - it will all become second nature to use clutch every time.

The only time i don't use the clutch is when my clutch cable is broken.

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Since you are a NEW rider I'd suggest you don't start off taking short cuts. Learn to ride properly and like it was mentioned before - it will all become second nature to use clutch every time.

The only time i don't use the clutch is when my clutch cable is broken.
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I agree with Cabrito, too. I have been riding a while and literally NEVER shift without my clutch. Not because I can't or anything, but I was taught to always use it and now it is like breathing. On or offroad. The only reason I would ever shift without clutch is if the clutch cable snapped or something and I had to get home.

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Hi Anthony, welcome to the forum and to the wonderful world of the KLR! Coming from a stick shift I just found myself out of habit using the clutch all the time. The one thing I am starting to find that works for me is downshifting without pulling the clutch in sandy and steep dirt situations. Those are not fun times to pull the clutch and when going up or down a hill with sand wash all around and needing to down or upshift 1st and 2nd all the time I just hit it. Never thought about if it was good or bad for the clutch, just figured it was better to do that then end up eating dirt. But for street riding there is no reason to not treat her right and use the clutch. Just my two cents.

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I don't use the clutch much at all on my dirt bike but I tend to use the clutch on my KLR almost always. Just seems smoother for me. The KLR has a lot of torque, it's probably easier on the tranny gears if you use the clutch to smooth out the shift.
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Shifting clutchless is tough on the shift drum. Shifting clutchless is most often used in race conditions where the eight of a second can make the difference in winning a race, but those bikes are rebuilt after each race.

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The only time i don't use the clutch is when my clutch cable is broken.
I did this day before yesterday. Boy was it embarassing taking off from the stoplights. Of course I had to hit 3 out of 4 of them.
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