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post #1 of 14 Old 07-18-2011, 04:02 PM Thread Starter
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Pure gasoline (ethanol-free)

I thought some of you might be interested in this site.
An interactive list of gas stations that sell ethanol-free gasoline in the U.S. and Canada.
http://pure-gas.org/
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post #2 of 14 Old 07-18-2011, 08:16 PM
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Only two in N.H.

Wish there were more. Wonder how much it's going for per gallon.
How competetive pricing, etc.

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Only two in N.H.

Wish there were more. Wonder how much it's going for per gallon.
How competetive pricing, etc.
There may be more. The site is maintained and updated by the users. I'll be adding a few local country stores to the list that are in my neck of the woods that have a high number of landscapers and tree workers that have a tough time finding straight gasoline.

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Only two in N.H.

Wish there were more. Wonder how much it's going for per gallon.
How competetive pricing, etc.
Last weekend I gased up at the Getty in Freedom, NH.
It was $4.27/gal for the pure gas. Their regular 10% ethanol was about $3.60/gal.
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Most stations here offer NO ethanol in Premium grade fuel. There is ethanol, up to 10%, in the mid and low grade.

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We have three locally. Since they only offer it in premium grade I usually pass. Seems a waste. However, I don't really know the consequences of it.
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Interesting list. I thought the geo-political side of the listings might tell some stories, but I guess since it's not comprehensive and just relies on people to inform them of a station, none can be read. Must admit, there were a lot more straight-gas-selling stations here in Midwestern Corn/Ethanol Country than I thought there would be.



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However, I don't really know the consequences of it.
I'm not an expert, but my understanding is there are two major concerns about ethanol.
(Please, anybody that knows more about it, feel free to correct me.)
Ethanol is a solvent or an alcohol.
1) It will disolve rubber, certain plastics, fiberglass, etc. Parts that may be in a fuel system.
2) It attracts or will absorb moisture. You can end up with water in your fuel. I understand it gets worse the longer it sets (eg. winter storage).

I think I heard there may also be problems with deposits, "varnish" and/or corrosion. Anybody know more?
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I went out and had a read of my owners manual in regard to fuel. I knew that my Goldwing was okay with up to 10% ethanol but wasn't sure about Kawasaki specs. Seems like it's okay so as far as the fuel system disintegrating because of ethanol I don't think it's an issue. I'm more concerned with the poor shelf life of fuel and the reduced fuel economy.
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While not a proponent of the ethanol industry, I use it. The only station around here that sells straight gas is 30 miles away.

As noted by klr4evr, shelf life is a concern.

Which brings up a related question, since I run the ethanol blend in everything and we're talking shelf life.

Seems like all small engine manufacturers recommend you drain the fuel system for storage. I'm guessing they're probably right and I'm probably wrong, but I don't do it with my motorcycles, mowers or anything else.

At the end of the season, I fill the tanks, then add fairly copious amounts of Seafoam and let the engines run for awhile to make sure the Seafoam has circulated through the system.

Everything fires right up in the Spring. Again, I may be foolish, but it seems to me there are components in the fuel system, such as seals, o-rings, etc., that depend on the fuel for lubrication/preservation. It doesn't make any sense to dry them out for months at a time by draining everything.

Am I mistaken? Should I top off the KLR tank and add some Seafoam, shut off the tank and then drain the rest of the fuel system? We're talking a term of about 3-4 months here with a 10% ethanol blend and Seafoam in the system.



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