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post #1 of 13 Old 11-06-2011, 09:44 PM Thread Starter
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Doesn't always downshift properly

My KiLLeR doesn't always downshift properly when slowing to a stop. Sometimes I have to keep pressure on the shifter and slowly let out the clutch, then it will drop into gear. I never come to a complete stop and then try to downshift, I always downshift appropriately while slowing down.
It has fresh oil.

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post #2 of 13 Old 11-06-2011, 11:29 PM
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My KiLLeR doesn't always downshift properly when slowing to a stop. Sometimes I have to keep pressure on the shifter and slowly let out the clutch, then it will drop into gear. I never come to a complete stop and then try to downshift, I always downshift appropriately while slowing down.
It has fresh oil.

Any tips or idea's?
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What do you mean down shift appropriately? Hold in the clutch and click down through the gears? Let out the clutch between gears?

Is the shift lever hitting on something when you press down on it? Does the clutch seem normal?

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I'm sure you've already checked this, but it sounds like clutch adjustment to me... Maybe too much free play so it's not totally disengaging? Are the upshifts smooth with the clutch or jerky/jumpy?

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Honestly I haven't messed with the cable play since I bought it. I set my bikes up so the clutch will disengage with my pinky and ring finger still on the grip and I just use my index and middle fingers to clutch.
I haven't checked anything because it seldomly does it. But when it does it, it tends to do it in all the gears. Almost like it gets off 1/4 a turn or something.
When I downshift I pull in the clutch and downshift every second or so while rolling.

I wonder if I'm grabbing the clutch with all fingers sometimes and pulling the clutch in all the way without really paying attention to it? Would that change things?

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post #5 of 13 Old 11-08-2011, 03:43 PM
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My bike every now and then won't downshift. If I keep trying, it will though. I feel that it has to do with stuff not being lined up right, similar to how sometimes it won't go into gear without being rolled forward a little bit.

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try rev-ing it slightly this helps the gears to mesh better.

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try rev-ing it slightly this helps the gears to mesh better.
Doesn't matter with the clutch in, the trans is isolated from the crank.

A motorcyle trans is constant mesh all the gears are turning all the time execept in neutral. The shift dogs are sliding to engage the gears to the output shaft. Pulling in the clutch or blipping the throttle slows the trans gears a bit to allow the dogs to slip in.

Below: the clutch is on the right threads and the primary gear on the left threads.



To the OP are you letting off the pressure after each shift? The lever has to release before it will go to the next gear.

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I typically do not. I bet you're right though, if I did I wouldn't have the issue. Most of the bikes I've had I seldomly release the clutch between gears and I seldomly have had any issues. ?

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post #9 of 13 Old 11-09-2011, 05:49 PM
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Clutch adj.

I see alot of people that have the clutch adjustment too tight and it interferes with where the friction point is in relation with where they think it should release. It effects the two-finger crowd the most. Try loosening it up to the point that there's free play. The other problem is they don't match engine RPM's with the speed and gear they're downshifting too. They say if you can downshift into first gear smoothly it's equiv. to hitting a two iron in golf. If you do it well, no gear will be a problem. Or you can be like me..punch it and crunch it!
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Evidence the KLR has a 6th gear? I think so. lol
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