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post #1 of 29 Old 11-17-2011, 11:50 AM Thread Starter
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::: Hitch Carrier for KLR on Subaru Forester:::

I am wanting to tow my KLR from Iowa to Arkansas for the winter. I have a Hitch Carrier set up for a 2" receiver. I do not have a hitch on my subaru yet.

So I've been searching the forester blog and people are saying not to use a hitch MC carrier to haul the KLR because of tongue weight exceeding Subaru's 240 pound weight limit.

Somehow I know there is a way to get around this. I am finding that I can purchase a Curt tow bar for up to 350 tongue weight but only serves up to 1.25 inch receiver. Also I am finding that the hitch tongue weight wont really matter if I am exceeding the cars capability. There has to be a good mod (welding support bars under the ramp) for this sort of thing. Any suggestions other than getting a trailer?
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post #2 of 29 Old 11-17-2011, 12:10 PM
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I've used a hitch hauler quite a bit in the past mounted on a 1/2-ton Dodge Ram pickup to carry 650 dual-sport bikes. Even with that fairly substantial vehicle, I had to add leaf springs on the rear suspension to keep it from sagging too much and to level my headlights. I used that thing a lot, but I never did like it.

I can't imagine using one on a Subaru Forester. Even if you were able to reinforce your hitch/frame mounting and stabilize it with some other materials, you would still have to beef up your suspension with airbags or something of the sort, if that's even possible on such a vehicle. If it is, it would cost a lot to do. If you don't, with all that weight hanging off your back bumper, your headlights will point at the sky and it would probably be detrimental to the handling of the vehicle.

If the weight of the KLR was carried over, or close to, the rear axle, that would be one thing, but when it's hanging off a carrier four or five feet or possibly more behind the rear axle, that's a lot of weight and leverage. A 400-pound KLR effectively turns into a 1,000-pound-+ KLR with that much arm. Now, throw in some bumps and rough roads, having to perform an emergency maneuver with the Forester: see what I'm getting at?

My two cents' worth is that it's a bad idea and not even possible and I wouldn't do it. If you don't have a hitch on your vehicle yet, I would either get whatever you need to work with the Curt tow bar. If you want a 2" receiver, I don't know if you can find a 2" to 1.25" adapter or not. I've never used a tow bar, but if you don't want to get a trailer, it would seem to me that would be your only option.

Have you considered just renting a small, open U-Haul trailer for a one-time use instead of buying one? Just a thought.




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I'm interested in this thread too. I've been wanting to do the same thing.
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post #4 of 29 Old 11-17-2011, 12:28 PM
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Panalp is right about this.

Weight x Arm = Moment

In other words, take the weight of the bike (350lbs) and the distance from the center of gravity (CG) which is not the rear wheels but somewhere in the middle probably near the front seats, and multiply that to get the amount of energy that the load would impose on the vehicle. Now multiply that by the G forces of rough roads and bumps which can quickly turn that 1000lb load factor into 4000lbs.

I was debating this for my Nissan Pathfinder. I have a tire holder swing arm that I can secure the whole bike too and take alot of the pressure off the carrier and remove all of the movement and jiggle effectively securing the entire thing to the vehicle, but I still don't think its a good idea and will use a trailer if I need to move the bike this way. Maybe for a #100lb motocross bike you could get away with using the carrier

Best bet would be to sell the carrier and find a nice little trailer or trade it in for something bigger.

Go load 300lbs of rocks at Home Depot and see how it looks!

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Sounds Good.
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post #6 of 29 Old 11-17-2011, 12:36 PM
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I've bought 2 of those used before with the hope that I could use it every once in awhile for my LIGHT bikes. Slipped it in my wifes minivan and it was LOW to the ground. I would of scraped the carrier just getting out of the driveway. I sold them before I ever used them. NO WAY would I put a KLR on one.

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If the Forrester would handle the load (check the owners manual and don't forget to add all occupants and cargo), I would still worry about unloading the front wheels (shifting that much weight rearward. If you're interested in attaching a carrier to the frame (custom application) PM me and I'll send you the formula to see where the center of gravity moves to.

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The KLR + hitch carrier is going to double the hitch weight limit for the Forester. Don't do it that's asking for big trouble. Get a small trailer to put your KLR on. That will be about 80 pounds on your hitch instead of 500.
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