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post #1 of 9 Old 12-11-2011, 09:30 PM Thread Starter
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Looking for an ATV

Alright, I looked around, and this seems like as good a place as any to put this. Mods, go ahead an move it if there is somewhere else that is better.

Anyways, I'm in the market for a ATV. Not a racing ATV, but something that can help get work done, tow a trailer, ect. I'm pretty sure I'd want 4 wheel drive. I want it to be reliable. Preferably something that has a good community and is possible to do the maintenance without a mechanic....basically the KLR of ATVs.

I think about $4000 would be my limit and ideally it would be something about ~2006 or newer.

Anyone have any recommendations?
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post #2 of 9 Old 12-12-2011, 09:41 AM
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I've had good luck with the Hondas. Always had 2WD, just less to break, less weight, and less maintenance. I've had them get stuck a couple times, but with the lighter weight, I can generally pick up the front or back end to get them unstuck. If I was planning on doing a lot of plowing or hauling a bush hog on rough terrain, then I might want 4WD.
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Kawasaki prairie 360 4x4 might be a good option. air cooled, thumper, electric and pull start. select-able 4x4. the only thing that isnt appealing to me is no speedo.
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I moved it here because it'll get more views and while it's not officially a "motorcycle" it's darned close..

I have a Honda 250 Recon ES.. It's a utility quad, but only 2wd.. Because of that, I just stay out of stuff that I know will get me in trouble.. Mostly, I use it for hunting and just farting around... It's got good power and hauls my lard butt around just fine.. Even with a whitetail deer draped across the front rack.

That said, I'm going to watch this topic with interest.. I'd like to learn more about what other's are using.. Mine was cheap and serves me well for what I use it for, but I think it'd be fun to wander through creeks and muddy trails..
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Alright, I looked around, and this seems like as good a place as any to put this. Mods, go ahead an move it if there is somewhere else that is better.

Anyways, I'm in the market for a ATV. Not a racing ATV, but something that can help get work done, tow a trailer, ect. I'm pretty sure I'd want 4 wheel drive. I want it to be reliable. Preferably something that has a good community and is possible to do the maintenance without a mechanic....basically the KLR of ATVs.

I think about $4000 would be my limit and ideally it would be something about ~2006 or newer.

Anyone have any recommendations?
I lived on ATVs before I went dual sport.

What reason do you have for wanting 4x4? Tell us a little bit about what you want the ATV to do. The reason I ask is 4x4 is in expensive option....adds more maintenance and complexity.....and for ALOT of people goes unused.

For example.....I take my utility quads out to the OHV park often. I have a little 200cc Honda 2wd ATV that can go thru places and into places I will get my Suzuki King Quad 4x4 stuck......because its lighter, smaller and more maneuverable. In the snow that 2wd Honda will go everywhere......the 4wd Suzuki wont go anywhere in 2wd.....it will go fine in 4wd....but I rarely find it an advantage over the 2wd Honda when just out riding around.

The BIG advantage is pushing that snow. That Honda will do it with some weight on the back....and actually do it better than most would think but you have to work at it.......the Suzuki does it with ease. Same with pulling large loads. I use the Suzuki to go get my car trailer out of the yard when its sloppy cause it will do it easier then even my truck will and with less damage. The Honda wont even move it.

......but for recreational riding and light duty work - Id say MOST people dont need the 4wd.

Now as far as which ATV to get......really, all the big guys make good stuff. Just like a motorcycle, go set on them all. Some will feel just right, others horrible. Ive had some of all of them and never had one that was any worse then the others.
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I lived on ATVs before I went dual sport.
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What reason do you have for wanting 4x4? Tell us a little bit about what you want the ATV to do. The reason I ask is 4x4 is in expensive option....adds more maintenance and complexity.....and for ALOT of people goes unused.

For example.....I take my utility quads out to the OHV park often. I have a little 200cc Honda 2wd ATV that can go thru places and into places I will get my Suzuki King Quad 4x4 stuck......because its lighter, smaller and more maneuverable. In the snow that 2wd Honda will go everywhere......the 4wd Suzuki wont go anywhere in 2wd.....it will go fine in 4wd....but I rarely find it an advantage over the 2wd Honda when just out riding around.

The BIG advantage is pushing that snow. That Honda will do it with some weight on the back....and actually do it better than most would think but you have to work at it.......the Suzuki does it with ease. Same with pulling large loads. I use the Suzuki to go get my car trailer out of the yard when its sloppy cause it will do it easier then even my truck will and with less damage. The Honda wont even move it.

......but for recreational riding and light duty work - Id say MOST people dont need the 4wd.

Now as far as which ATV to get......really, all the big guys make good stuff. Just like a motorcycle, go set on them all. Some will feel just right, others horrible. Ive had some of all of them and never had one that was any worse then the others.
TBH, I don't know much about ATVs, that is why I am here.

Anyways, I was thinking that I wanted a 4x4 to tow heavy trailers. Is it overkill? Or should I just get a larger 2 wheel drive?

Right now I have a very steep hill (i'm not gonna guess on the grade) that I would like to be able to pull a trailer up. It would be much more convenient if I didn't have to go and get a tractor to pull it up. It is also possible that I reroute the path so it is not as steep anymore, but that would require cutting trees, destumping, ect.

That hill is where I think I'd really want a 4wd.

Is ~500 cc a decent size for my needs?
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I've had good luck with the Hondas. Always had 2WD, just less to break, less weight, and less maintenance. I've had them get stuck a couple times, but with the lighter weight, I can generally pick up the front or back end to get them unstuck. If I was planning on doing a lot of plowing or hauling a bush hog on rough terrain, then I might want 4WD.
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Kawasaki prairie 360 4x4 might be a good option. air cooled, thumper, electric and pull start. select-able 4x4. the only thing that isnt appealing to me is no speedo.
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steferf,
I moved it here because it'll get more views and while it's not officially a "motorcycle" it's darned close..

I have a Honda 250 Recon ES.. It's a utility quad, but only 2wd.. Because of that, I just stay out of stuff that I know will get me in trouble.. Mostly, I use it for hunting and just farting around... It's got good power and hauls my lard butt around just fine.. Even with a whitetail deer draped across the front rack.

That said, I'm going to watch this topic with interest.. I'd like to learn more about what other's are using.. Mine was cheap and serves me well for what I use it for, but I think it'd be fun to wander through creeks and muddy trails..
Thanks for the input guys. I'll look into these. And Paper, I too will watch this topic with interest.
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TBH, I don't know much about ATVs, that is why I am here.

Anyways, I was thinking that I wanted a 4x4 to tow heavy trailers. Is it overkill? Or should I just get a larger 2 wheel drive?

Right now I have a very steep hill (i'm not gonna guess on the grade) that I would like to be able to pull a trailer up. It would be much more convenient if I didn't have to go and get a tractor to pull it up. It is also possible that I reroute the path so it is not as steep anymore, but that would require cutting trees, destumping, ect.

That hill is where I think I'd really want a 4wd.

Is ~500 cc a decent size for my needs?
If I was navigating hills with a trailer and working Id probably want the 4wd. Chances are you could get by with 2wd and a good aggressive tire.....but there may be instances where you'd need to "get a run at it" in 2wd where as with a 4wd you can stop mid-hill and just take off again with ease.

Id say 500cc would be a perfect size - Id resist getting any bigger unless you REALLY need the power cause those big ATVs get about the same size as a small car and really loose maneuverability.

My 4x4 is a 300cc....Im 315lbs and commonly use it to push snow, pull my car trailer around the yard/town etc - havent run out of power yet. My Suzuki has a high range, low range and super low range.......you put it in super low range and lock the front diff.....it will damn near pull a house off its foundation.
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As an update:

My parents bought a 2012 Polaris Sportsman 550 ho. It may be a touring, and I may have the model slightly wrong, I don't recall. My dad really wanted a two seater, so they ended up paying much more.

It has a cvt (constant variable transmission), which I don't like because I feel like it is just more stuff to break, and has heat issues (driving slowly in high range for example). The cvt is kinda weird, as the RPMs change on their own as the gear ratio changes without me doing anything....I like the feel of a standard transmission anyways.

It has on demand 4WD, which I also don't like, because again I feel like it is more stuff to break and I don't get the feeling that it gets as good traction as a pure 4WD (locking).

Then it has some sort of auto clutch, where it engages whenever you press the throttle. I don't like that because again, more stuff to break, and it kinda lurches when you start moving after you shift gears....feels like I'm breaking/wearing out the transmission.

Finally I don't like the break, I like having front and rear break control.

I also need to adjust the Idle screw, but for the life of me I can't find it. I think it may be the onboard computer malfunctioning, because sometimes it idles correctly and sometimes it triess to idle significantly below where it is supposed to....I donno.

I have alotta complaints, but overall I like it. The biggest problems I have is that I feel like the thing has a number of unnecessary complex mechanisms that feel like they are prone to failure. If they don't break prematurely, then the atv is perfect. When I go to their farm, I like the tractor more, but I stick a trailer on the atv and combined with the front end loader on the tractor, I can move alotta material....basically I make my own little dump truck operation.

Also, I took a empty trailer down a really big steep hill. It started jacknifing because I didn't want to go too fast (I was on the breaks) and there was ground erosion exposing large loose rocks. Correcting the jacknife was actually really really fun.



On the whole motorcycles are much more fun to drive. After driving it for about 30 seconds I asked myself, "Is that it?" No shifting, only one break that you don't use much because the cvt is good at engine breaking, no balancing...you just kinda drive.

Thanks again to anyone that offered advice.
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