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post #1 of 10 Old 05-02-2012, 06:30 PM Thread Starter
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post #2 of 10 Old 05-02-2012, 08:43 PM Thread Starter
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Bump cause the site crashed and now it's working. Click on my face and you can see a slideshow.

I'd really appreciate tweets, fb likes, etc cause I'm working on making a living writing about fishing. And if I can, I'm taking all y'all bitches to cabo.




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LOL I loved the "if you hold the fish closer to the camera it looks bigger" idea.

#15, tho? Reminds me of "The River Why" where the Mom caught trout on worms and the Dad was strictly a fly guy. It's a good book. They made it into a movie but the movie pretty much sucked, in my opinion.

Lures/flies are fun and it is cool to have fish strike one of them, but some of my best fishing memories center on the old "throw the bait in the water and sit back and wait for something to happen" techniques. I'm pretty much strictly a bait guy now as all I fish for are catfish and carp, although I have toyed with the idea of using a fly rod to catch carp because I've read it's a hell of a lot of fun.

My approach to fishing is kind of a "holistic" one and that's why I bait fish. I'm not anti-social, but I seek out spots where I know there will be nobody else around. I like to sit back and take in the panorama of the scene and all the other wildlife you see. I've seen beavers, otters, deer, more birds than I can count, turkeys, coyotes, foxes, you name it.

If you're lure fishing, pretty much all you do is stare at your rod and line and concentrate on your "presentation" of the lure. Not catching any fish? You think, "Well, must the wrong lure for the conditions" so you stop and put on another one, again staring at your tackle box, your line and your lures. You're so busy fishing you zone out on everything else around you. Not to mention, at least where I fish, getting snagged and getting pissed off because you just lost a $5 lure and, despite your best intentions, putting a new lure on and doing the exact same thing three minutes later.

It just seems to me to be less relaxing than just taking one form of bait (for me, almost always nightcrawlers harvested from my back yard, perhaps the occasional crawdads and always my home-brewed doughball bait for carp) and just plopping it in the river and sitting back and enjoying nature until you happen to notice your rod tip bouncing.

You figure if you're not getting any bites, you must be casting in the wrong spot.

Lots of folks team it up with drinking beer but I don't because I had to drive to get there and I have to drive home when I'm done.

I rarely catch and release unless the fish are just too small to be worth cleaning or there's a length limit on channel cat. I take 'em home, clean 'em and put 'em in the freezer to eat later if I'm not going to eat them that day.

I guess probably the main reason I bait fish is because that's the most effective way to catch catfish and carp and those are my two favorite fish to eat, the carp being #1. I've caught catfish on deep-running bass lures but never a carp. Sure, I'll eat 'em, but to me bass, trout, walleye, crappie or any other "game fish" doesn't compare to a nice catfish or carp for "good eatin'" I'm a bottom-feeder kind of guy. For the record, my favorite fish of all time to eat is flounder but those don't seem to reside here in Holt County.

You bring up a lot of very good points in your article, though. Kudos to you. I liked it and I think the sport could benefit a lot of folks if they got involved in it, especially kids.

At least in my case, I think a lot of our philosophies/habits about fishing were formed when we were kids. I know mine were, anyway.

Whatever your preferences are, be grateful that somebody took you fishing when you were a kid so you could form them. It's a great pastime.

Again, good work, Lockjaw. You bring up some great points. You are to be commended for doing so.




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Thanks man. The River Why is a GREAT book. Love it. The first book ever published by the Sierra Club incidentally.

I think you and I agree more than you think and it comes down to the type of fish. I've never fished for catfish or carp. Trout and bass and bream. That was it. I fished bait when I was a kid. but I fish like you. I take one rod and usually use the same lure all day unless I lose it. I'm not one of those crazy bass guys or fancy fly-fisherman. And I fish by feel with my head on a swivel, so I don't miss much.

I still fish for trout with corn sometimes. I like to be out on my own, too. And I see eagles and osprey and snakes and otters. Saw a cougar a few years ago pretty close. Gorgeous. And a little scary. Point being, I fish pretty much like you except for the sitting part. I'm working a lure, but my senses are tuned into everything around me.

Thanks for reading the article. I was lucky enough to have a Paupa who was a mad trout fisherman in PA and a Grandpa who fished for panfish in So Ill and FL.

I don't know why we never fished for catfish? Sure ate a lot of them. And I hear catching carp on a flyrod is crazy fun, too. The Brits love it.

Tight lines, brother.




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Thanks man. The River Why is a GREAT book. Love it. The first book ever published by the Sierra Club incidentally.
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My sister forwarded that book to me a long time ago, probably about 1985 or so, and it remains one of my favorite books of all time and I've still got the copy she gave me.

I didn't know it was the first book every published by the Sierra Club.

I think it's about the best fishing/philosophy book ever written.



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It was recommended by a friend. I tried to read his second novel 'The Brothers K'. Couldn't get into it. Yeah, it's an awesome book. One I'd forgotten about. Thanks for the reminder.

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My sister forwarded that book to me a long time ago, probably about 1985 or so, and it remains one of my favorite books of all time and I've still got the copy she gave me.

I didn't know it was the first book every published by the Sierra Club.

I think it's about the best fishing/philosophy book ever written.



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"you ready for Saturday stupid"? My brother pretended to be mean but I knew he was as excited as me! Saturday was the FIRST day of trout season, a day treated with as much awe and excitement as Christmas,(well almost). I had saved my money from selling those boxes of greeting cards from the ad in Boy's Life magazine. I bought a brand new black plastic worm holder that fit on your belt. I also had two packs of #8 snelled hooks. The best part of the whole thing was that we knew Dad wasn't working Saturday,cause he always took us fishing on "Opening Day".We also knew he remembered, cause he was oiling the reels: Mitchell's... That's what he called them.."the best spinning reel they make"! "Yeah, of course I'm ready, knowing there would be little sleeping going on on Friday night......"Mark!..dinners ready...what are you doing on that KLR forum?". ...oh just a little reminiscing...
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I used to have one of them belt worm buckets, too.




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I kinda figured.... I fish sort of how you do. Sometimes I fly fish, if I go to Roscoe,NY. It's called trout town USA. In my Dads last years he went lake trout fishing in his boat at a local reservoir. I joined him for as many of those days as I could:but not to fish.

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When I was a kid, we used to go to Colorado every Summer to visit my older sisters and brother who lived out there.

With all the mountain vistas and Denver (which was an amazing place to a kid from the sticks like me) one of my fondest memories was buying my first "real" rod and reel.

It was just some cheap, off-brand spincast rod/reel combo but I spent hours out in the parking lot of the motel practicing my casting with one of those little yellow rubber plug things.

The first fish I ever caught with it were bullheads out of local drainage/irrigation ditches.

Sadly, I never had a plastic belt worm bucket........

How much of a hillbilly kid was I? Before getting the spincast combo, the only thing I'd ever fished with was a cane pole.




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