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post #1 of 7 Old 09-23-2012, 10:55 PM Thread Starter
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Non-ethanol gas

One of the collector bikes on the place was unhappy after not running for several weeks a while back. Carb cleaning is in order ... again...

I went on a discovery mission to find out if I could buy some gasoline not gasohol for my small engines

We have one product available in our area that is not gasohol - Shell V-Power premium.

I'm using it in everything now.
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post #2 of 7 Old 09-24-2012, 05:31 AM
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Did you use this site to find it or did you do a personal recon?

http://pure-gas.org/

I've never actively used it since I've given up on caring about non-ethanol gas, but it seems like a nifty resource. I guess it's only as accurate as the people that contribute to it. Thought somebody else might be interested after rearing your post. We have one Shell station, as you mentioned, and another small chain store called Shop And Hop that carries an unbranded straight gas: 3 stations in a 50-mile radius from me.

My criteria for buying gas? I will not buy gas, no matter what the price, at a place that requires pre-pay over one that does not. Since there's only one gas station/convenience store in my path that never requires pre-pay, even at night, that's where I buy all my gas unless I absolutely have to stop somewhere else.

At least with me, their no pre-pay is appreciated: I've probably spent about $25,000 at that store in the last 12 years just buying gas to get back and forth to work and that doesn't even count the beer and coffee I happen to buy when I'm there. That's probably another $25,000.



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I usually only buy fuel from marketers that refine their own products.
I went to the website of each company and looked at the Material Data Safey Sheet (MSDS). These sheets list the ingredients by %.
Fuels containing ethanol were actually called "gasohol" and the ethanol content was the second ingredient behind gasoline.
V-Power was called "gasoline" and no ethanol was listed.
I confirmed my findings with a follow up phone call to Shell customer service that took 2 minutes...(you know... it could be a trick)..."That is correct, sir...V-Power does not contain ethanol. It is a very poplular gasoline with our motorcyle customers."
One of my less-ingenius riding pals says "Oh yes, I did that investigation while out riding my bike the other day, only a little different. At my local Shell station the V-Power pump has a sticker that says "does not contain ethanol." The other pumps have a sticker that says "contains up to 10% ethanol."
By using my clever internet investigation methods instead of dialing 1-800-customer service at the 5 refinery companies in our region, or better yet, looking at the gas pumps, I likely spent 2 hours digging up the information...
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I buy most of my gasoline at Extra foods or Superstore and their Premium fuel is "no ethanol" The mid grade is 5% and the regular is 10% as posted on the pumps. I repaired a friend's small carburated packer and had to do it again two weeks later after he used regular fuel in it . The alcohol really raised he.. in that carburetor!

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My criteria for buying gas? I will not buy gas, no matter what the price, at a place that requires pre-pay over one that does not.

What's your issue with pre-pay? Lot of gas & run cases these days and at least pre-pay prevents that. I recently read about a guy getting killed trying to stop a gas and run.

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What's your issue with pre-pay? Lot of gas & run cases these days and at least pre-pay prevents that. I recently read about a guy getting killed trying to stop a gas and run.
Lol you should try buying fuel in Pennsylvania the wife in the store me getting diesel, it,s the law there now , I like to use the card get my fuel and be gone .
I use shell only if they have separate hoses ,I,m a fussy old bugger j
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What's your issue with pre-pay? Lot of gas & run cases these days and at least pre-pay prevents that. I recently read about a guy getting killed trying to stop a gas and run.
Small-town thinking, I guess. The owner of the chain where I buy my gas seems to have the same philosophy: customers like to be trusted. Those that are trusted will return again and again to do business with them instead of just going wherever the gas is .01 cheaper.

They have cameras everywhere and the owner of the local franchise told me they have about a 95% success rate tracking down drive-offs, then they prosecute them. You can lose your license for a year here for doing that, so maybe it's not as prevalent in Missouri.

Whether it's cost-effective compared to the pre-pay others have switched or not, I don't know, but he has no plans to change it. If he had no pre-pay through the high prices a couple of years ago without doing it, I don't see him doing it now.

I think pre-paying for gas is kind of like a store asking you for a cash deposit before you shop to prevent shoplifting or having to pay at a restaurant before you even get your food. It just doesn't sit well with me.



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