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post #1 of 23 Old 09-28-2012, 05:31 PM Thread Starter
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Self defense/protection for long rides?

Thinking of the many aspects of a cross-country ride...one thing comes to mind: self defense. Any recommendations? A person might be hesitant to carry a fire arm, due to the differing laws of states other than one's home state. But then again, maybe that's not an issue.

What do you experienced trekkers say?

Many years ago, I was on a several-day ride, alone, and was camping for the night in a "closed for the season" national park campground. Late at night, nobody around for a hundred miles, and up the (supposedly closed) road comes a pick up truck. My heart rate jumped considerably while the truck idled beside my camp spot, giving me the once-over...then moved on. I have often thought of the many unpleasant outcomes that could have resulted from that night caller. Never did know for sure, but I concluded the passer-by must have been a ranger who decided not to roust me in the middle of the night.
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While two legged night visitors might be a problem, I feel that the ferel hog danger while camping warrents having an armed camp. This is a growing problem in many parts of the country and has to be considered. Most actual wild animals have been run out of areas, but the ferel hog roams without fear of man. So my iron is stored during the day but out and avaible after dark. ride safe rebar James
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IMHO....the only thing you need to protect yourself from are animals that like the taste of whte meat, sorry human meat, I forgot....lol. Not being racist towards the dark meat section of our crown.....I have other races more demanding of my hatred these days.....sorry to say. That protection from those animals usually comes from a very clean camp and the action of moving sites every night.
The two legged version of preditors can be a real issue in some places....I carry a sharp object and some sort of legal firearm as in bear bangers. The one that is like a pen with a cartridge on top. Just get close enough to stick it in their mouth and oooops, it went off? Ride away. Yse you down below the border have the worst type of issue and that is everyone can carry a handgun easily where we can't. IMHO, it is a better system as it evens the fight so to speak. If both the victom and the attacker have the same weapon then it's skill that wins the war. A bit like the old days when fighting meant fists and the best man won. The bear bangers are a leagal way to get around that problem up here. Even if not swallowed, they will scare the daylights out of someone who isn't aware they are targeted by one.

The best weapon is common sence....do all you can to stay away from trouble in the firstplace...then do what is legal in the secondplace.....As long as you win and live to ride away....alls good.

May sound stupid....but when the chips are put down...it's better than an ambulance ride to the nearest hospital or morgue!

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Thinking of the many aspects of a cross-country ride...one thing comes to mind: self defense. Any recommendations? A person might be hesitant to carry a fire arm, due to the differing laws of states other than one's home state. But then again, maybe that's not an issue.
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You definitely want to do your homework regarding the reciprocity agreements your state has with others regarding concealed carry. It's usually very easy to find out, so no big deal as long as you abide by it.



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This is a good sight for information on reciprocity int the USA

Google usacarry dot com
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Thanks for the links RLF. I carry all the time in my state and other allowing states only.
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post #8 of 23 Old 10-02-2012, 12:31 PM
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for the two legged threats , i have 3 years of MMA/ judo, bjj under my belt . that includes disarming people and if need me dis arm ing them lol . seriously though confidence is a huge deal (with 2 and 4 legged). people who use knives and guns are relying on fear of the weapon so keep that in mind .
for four legged dangers i keep a fox 40 whistle , bear repellent , and a solid fixed blade knife beside me when i sleep . ( bear bangers are on the list to buy ) . If anything approaches my tent , whistle first ( plug your ears and blow as hard as you can ) . then bear repellent ( outside the tent and NOT into the wind ) and as a last resort the knife . which can be used if something is trying to enter your tent .
it is illegal to use the bear repellent on people but not immoral
I also carry a hatchet on my camping trips so that could be used too , some might carry a machete.
I have LOADS of time in the backcountry in bear country , black and brown ( even polar) and have never had a problem . no food in tents and proper camping technique goes a long way . i have run into loads of people in the middle of nowhere and never had a problem . only been asked to come have a drink with strangers .
never been told to put the lotion on or i get the hose ...
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