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post #1 of 21 Old 01-02-2013, 11:41 AM Thread Starter
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This last week I was driving along in Visalia and a guy with his SUV stopped in the road was flagging me down. As I pulled up I saw a downed motorcycle... about 40 ft further I saw a helmet... and about 40 ft up from the helmet I saw the rider. I stopped, ran to the rider to check for vitals. Nothing on the wrist or neck. He was in the fetal position on his right side and his left eye was open (I couldn't see his right eye). As I began to roll him over I saw the side of head was crushed. At this time the witness told me he saw everything in his rear view mirror... two m/c's going at high rate of speed, one lost control and wrecked, the other took off. The witness wouldn't approach the downed cyclist, but by this time several others had stopped. Two happened to be nurses. They checked for vitals and one began to roll him over as I had done and stopped when she saw his head as well.

This is a real reminder for me to ride with the utmost care. I have a family that depends on me. When ever I read about a fellow cyclist perishing, I take pause and consider the risks. Seeing this in real life is something else entirely.
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post #2 of 21 Old 01-02-2013, 11:55 AM
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With the helmet separated from the rider, it makes me wonder if the rider was wearing the helmet - or of the backrest on the bike was wearing it.

I can't tell you the number of times I've been passed by riders who have their helmet either hanging from the helmet lock or strapped onto the backrest, and my thought every time is "That helmet ain't going to do you any good when it's not on your melon!"

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I'll get my knuckles wrapped for saying this but....I have no compassion for the rider who doesn't wear a helmet at least....I have all the compassion for his family!

It just boggles my mind that you are willing to risk this type of outcome and think nothing of your safety let alone the hardships you are dealing onto your family members.

Sorry but hey.....there are Darwin Awards for a reason!

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Somewhat judgmental, IMHO, assuming the cyclist wasn't wearing his helmet as the accident began.

Helmets sometimes become separated from their wearers as a result of impact; I'd hesitate concluding the victim helmetless without additional evidence.

I think California has a mandatory helmet law.

Certainly helmets reduce the severity of head injuries when worn; however--some accidents aren't survivable, regardless of protective gear.

Self-righteous outrage at presumed reckless behavior (riding without protective headgear) without supporting evidence doesn't seem useful, to me.

Fully-protected motorcycle policeman with flashing lights and siren, crossing an intersection with a green traffic light in his favor was killed locally, yesterday; car made left-turn into his path.
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Somewhat judgmental, IMHO, assuming the cyclist wasn't wearing his helmet as the accident began.

Helmets sometimes become separated from their wearers as a result of impact; I'd hesitate concluding the victim helmetless without additional evidence.

I think California has a mandatory helmet law.

Certainly helmets reduce the severity of head injuries when worn; however--some accidents aren't survivable, regardless of protective gear.

Self-righteous outrage at presumed reckless behavior (riding without protective headgear) without supporting evidence doesn't seem useful, to me.

Fully-protected motorcycle policeman with flashing lights and siren, crossing an intersection with a green traffic light in his favor was killed locally, yesterday; car made left-turn into his path.
For what it's worth: If your comments were directed to my post, you'd have to go back and read where I stated "With the helmet separated from the rider, it makes me wonder if the rider was wearing the helmet..." IF the rider was wearing the helmet...

At no point did I say that the rider was riding without his helmet.

I then went on to state that there have been numerous occasions where I've watched riders pass me with their helmets on their backrests, etc.

Hell, I've even had a guy riding by with his young daughter (probably 10 yrs old or less) hanging on behind daddy wearing her helmet, while daddy's helmet was hanging on the helmet lock.

I'm well aware that there are instances where helmets come off during accidents, or that there are accidents that aren't survivable.

My apologies for not being more clear in my initial post. It wasn't my intent to be judgmental toward the unfortunate rider who lost his life in the wreck described above.


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Maybe the OP is a trained responder but just saying:

Never move an accident victim unless it's to save his life. Get traffic stopped but don't endanger yourself in the process. Manage the scene until pros show up.

A properly fitted and secured full face helmet won't come off short of ripping your head off. Of course even in helmet required states a full face helmet is only worn by a small minority of riders in my observation. Modular helmets are getting popular though. Unfortunately I know that because I see them riding around with them flipped up!

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Not trying to make any conjecture, but I am amazed by the number of riders who just don't fasten the straps on the helmet. Crazy.

Who knows what happened here except a tragedy. I'm sorry you had to see that, brother, but it is a good gut check. And a reminder to pick your friends and who you ride with carefully. I can't BELIEVE the other bike bailed. I only hope someone whoops his ass something fierce.

And I do agree, never touch, especially never remove a helmet...but those things are tough to remember in the moment. A sticker that says, 'please don't remove my helmet' is always a good idea.




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First, thanks for stopping at the scene, many do not these days.
The reminder is all too scary for me as I spent 5 hours in the ER after the 25 minute ambulance ride down the hill a year ago.

Second, you did the right thing. It's now C,B,A's, Circulation, Breathing, Airway. The mechanism was there, loss of helmet, also dictates to hold C-spine precautions, but with no pulse, or breathing, one must try to determine the extent of the trauma.

I'm sorry for the picture that will never go away in your head, it will ease with time. I've seen too many over the years, and when you do, you just know. All the precautions in the world don't help when it's time to go.

You may trust YOUR riding, never trust the other guys driving though.

Again, thanks for stopping.
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Not trying to make any conjecture, but I am amazed by the number of riders who just don't fasten the straps on the helmet. Crazy.
At least once (maybe twice) I've ridden off without the helmet strap. Just an oversight.

But as soon as I felt it flapping, I pulled over and cinched it on.

Like you said, it's practically pointless to use a helmet with the strap dangling. But I guess a large contingent feels it's pointless to wear a helmet, so who cares about the strap, then.
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I used to race stock cars. There was a bad wreck with one car doing multiple barrel rolls. The driver's helmet flew out of the car and went nearly 50 ft in the air and landed 100ft away. We didn't know if his head was still in it till he climbed out of the car. The helmet had an aftermarket quick release which broke. I have never considered using a quick release since.
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