It will never be the same...
Well guys, I've had a couple of days to think about it, and I'm still kinda upset over the whole "Glenn Accusation Fiasco." When he singled me out as being some kind of ringleader against "His" site and it really hurt my feelings, and I felt betrayed. (As I'm sure as much as he thought he did too) Since I've officially joined .net (lurked for several years) I've put a lot of time and energy into the fourm and made sure the things I posted were useful and courteous to the viewers. Especially if noobs came on board I didn't want my posts to come across as me being some kind of jerk. "Approachable" is the word I'm looking for, I guess.
Anyway, I never meant for me pointing the way to another forum for the angry/upset guys and gals that wanted to cool off or post elsewhere to get out of hand. I joined over here back in June hoping things would pick up eventually, because you can never have too much info on the KLR, as far as I'm concerned. Most everyone already knows about ThumperTalk, ADVRider, MADS Yahoo Group and the one on Motorcyle or whatever. Links are posted freely back and forth all the time about the other sites, and we all know that there are people who ride KLRs that choose to never come over to the .net site. They have their favorites/home already established. So, by me pointing the way to another forum, was in part doing them a service in kind of a "Don't let the door hit you on the way out" kind of way, but not in a rude manner... just giving them a direction to go up the road. It was never my intention to totally jump ship from .net, as I was going to go freely between the two because even a new site needs help getting off the ground, and I've got plenty of "Tech Write-Ups" and other helpful posts that would go a long way over here. I only wanted to be a liaison between the forums for the people who I knew would eventually not go back and forth to share information.
But now, it seems as if I've been unoffically banned from there, and it would be hard to show my face on the forum. I get this sick feeling like I'm looked upon as some kind of Benedict Arnold if I posted even to say hi. Perhaps, I'm sounding like a whinney crybaby looking for a pat on the back, but I'm really just venting now.
I've been following the posts over there and even the one about "The Other Site" (meaning here) and the refusal to mention the URL as if this is some kind of sick cult. In my mind they are doing a disservice to any new members who might find useful info over here as well. Ironically, the most vocal members in opposition to the creation of this site are also the ones who gripe about censorship, yet their refusal to even type KLRforum.com seems way to obviously hypocritical and myopic. They are openly censoring information from anyone who asks about it. Pathetic.
Then there are the few people who delibertly talk bad about me and belittle my efforts in keeping the peace over here early on. I knew the minute "Advertising" for this site went out, that we'd get a flood of members coming in here to either peek around, say hello or push some buttons. So, I don't think anything I said or did to any of those guys was out of line. In the beginning, there needs to be some clear cut standards to follow. If that means squashing any insurrection quickly then so be it. Setting the tone of the forum early, in my opinion shakes the tree loose of any bad apples who wish to hang on and fester, and ultimately spoil it for the whole bunch.
I'm not one of those "Power Trip" guys, and by no means do I want to sit here and babysit every post to see if it might be offensive. If a post is reported, I'll look into it. If the word censor software already put astereks then, leave it be don't report it... just get over it. But what I will not tolerate is people being unruly with eachother and starting the same ole crap all over again. I'm a realist and live in the real world. I know people are different and have different view points. I don't care. This site and the .net site were supposed to be about the KLR. With a little bit of fun side stuff that kept us entertained while we sat around waiting for a real tech question to pop up. Or to "ooh" and "ahh" over someone's latest upgrade. As far as I'm concerned, this site will be no different except it's got the word censor software turned on. And Moderators who will act when they see people getting out of hand... meaning personal.
The fact that they've now got the "Pot Stirrer's" over there, talking bad about this place does not send a strong message of unity. It's going to start to become a game of "My Toys Are Better Than Yours." If you don't believe me, it's already started, with the name calling and the backstabbing. As if all of us were forced to move to the other side of the island. We chose to come here, and we wanted to start fresh. I get the feeling that you guys in here have the "No Hard Feelings" approach, while they raise a glass and cheer that we are gone. I see what they post about us being the "Touchy Feely KLR Group", and "All Fluff" or "No Substance" forum. That's kind of messed up, and harkens back to a Junior High locker room scenario. I think we can have just as much KLR tech as any site out there. Information is shared freely nowadays, and with us starting fresh, I don't see why we can't have better content, more organization, easier access, and yeah... nicer people.
I'm just sad that my presense will never be the same over there. Might take years for this to die down and become just a memory.