Well guys i took everyones advice after failing my roadtest and i took the MSF course thurs and friday. I cant believe how much i learned. Its also nice to be able to say im licensed now. After taking the course i think it needs to be a state mandated course, i cant immagine how people dont end up as spots on the road without these guys. They also helped a ton with my cornering skills and figure 8 skills. Just like you all said, its all in the eyes and leaning on that outside peg.

I passed my road test on a Harley Wide Glide.
The MSF course is for non riders and women.

Lol, well actually i consider myself a non rider. I was self taught up until the road test(which i dumped on the circles), so i really never had any true experience. I knew how to shift and start because i drive stick but everything else was all a big guess to me. Now i feel alot safer and more responsible than before, and i think 90% of people on this forum would agree that your statement is a pretty rediculous one. Any type of training is good, training from people with 35+ years of experience is even better. Statistics also show that people who take the MSF course only acount for 8% of motorcycle accidents, all the rest are self taught or family taught.
Boo Yaaaaaaa!!!

I've been thinking about taking the course to save on my insurance. They don't honor the advanced course for insurance purposes so I'll have to take the basic course.

I'm not a woman, so I must be a non-rider with somewhere around a meelion moto-miles.

Congratulations!!!

I used to drive a stick, but I stopped becuase I was getting to many slivers.
(rimshot)

It's been a while since I've ridden so I've been keeping an eye out for a MSF course around here for a refresher.

Have fun Riding,
Brian

Even riders with years of experience can use refreshers along with "non -riders" because over time we all start to obtain bad habits that we don't realize we are doing. Only a fresh set of eyes can spot our pitfalls and help us become safer drivers. "I passed my road test on a Harley Wide Glide.
The MSF course is for non riders and women." to me is a statement from someone that could probably use a refresher. Just my opinion, and yes I am aware of what opinions are like. Oh, I have seen many women riders that can out ride most men, even those on Hardleys!

I only kept the Hardly for 6 months, it was a Huge POS.
It was brand new and it stated leaking after only 800 miles.

I took the advanced course while in the military. What a wake up call. I would do it again. Any training for iding is worth it.

Congrats 421.Manning up and taking the course was a good decision.It will/has taught you things that some today with many miles have forgotten.Thru the years of riding I have seen some of the dumbest stuff done by egotistical young people who think they know it all,only to be scrapped up later.Riding safe and smart will give you many years of enjoyable riding.You ride safe and you will ride long.Let me give you an example of 8 days of riding in the mountains
1. 2pm riding in the rain on a twisty 2 lane rural,a deer launches off of the road bank right into my lane.Hitting the brakes the back wheel locks up starting a slide.I won't go into detail,but things turned out alright.
2.6:30 pm.A deer runs out from some brush and damn near runs into me,missed that deer by about 6 to 8 feet @ 60mph
3. 04:40 am. A deer jumps over a guard rail and lands directly in my lane running 50I just miss the hind end of that deer,barely had time to let off of the throttle.
4.5 pm.Following two cars thru Marietta Ohio,a girl throws her car door open into traffic,The first car hits the door,the second car swerves and hits the left rear of the first car blocking both lanes.I have plenty of time to stop.Now here is the unbelievable part.The girl whos car door got hit and the girl who hit her,both exit their cars STILL talking on cell phones.
I average around 1,500 miles a month and always run into things like above.Each instance only took a couple of seconds,but I had hours of good,enjoyable riding.The moral of the story,Stay tuned to your enviroment and you will have many years of riding.Again,congrats on you taking the msf course and welcome to the world of two wheels



Happy Trails


Mike

KLRMIKE, you didn't cut all the trees down in Sherwood forest and piss Bambi's Mom off big time? Is she is trying to come out of left field and dismount you from the KLR? Seriously I DO NOT miss the deer in the upper Midwest, especially in rut season. Sometimes when the fall colors were in full swing and they blended in with the foliage all you could get a glimpse of was the steam from their breath. Then it was time to hit the clamps.

Bill