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post #1 of 49 Old 10-30-2013, 05:15 PM Thread Starter
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A 2012 goes down in flames

This guy was doing an Americas tour when his bike lost power, caught fire, and exploded in California: http://www.gofundme.com/4wizng

He said he looked back and right and saw the seat (and he) was on fire.

The only culprits I can think of are gas, exhaust, and electrics. And the first two seem unlikely.

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just a thought but maybe a piece of his gear was touching the exhaust and started it. he did say he noticed it on the back right side.

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just a thought but maybe a piece of his gear was touching the exhaust and started it. he did say he noticed it on the back right side.
As someone who melted some gear recently... I sure hope not.
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If the "official" cause is found out, I'd like to know - because I've got a 2012 myself.

Hopefully he'll be able to continue his journey in the future...

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If the "official" cause is found out, I'd like to know - because I've got a 2012 myself.

Hopefully he'll be able to continue his journey in the future...
A couple commenters on the Google+ Dual Sport community are saying they had wire rub problems on their Gen2s, and that there was a recall on the 08-09s for wire rub issues:

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...type=DrillDown

My gen1 wiring rubbed through above the coolant overflow, and threatened to on the upper engine mount. I've hardened the two points against it. Maybe we should have a catalog of problem spots for wire rub...
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No insurance, I reckon.

Without some evidence of faulty materials, design, workmanship, or whatever, I'd be surprised if Kawasaki bites into the product liability apple offered.

With 30 years of production of essentially the same bike, with no known systemic fire hazard obvious or experienced, voluntary product liability relief appears a remote possibility, to me.

Glad the rider escaped serious injury; regret the property damage loss; have no idea how the fire started (although the proximity of the apparent point of origin to the exhaust, and the somewhat cluttered-appearing packed load, may hold clues).

Wish the rider well.

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This guy was doing an Americas tour when his bike lost power, caught fire, and exploded in California: http://www.gofundme.com/4wizng

He said he looked back and right and saw the seat (and he) was on fire.

The only culprits I can think of are gas, exhaust, and electrics. And the first two seem unlikely.

Any other ideas?
Most of the wires on the back half of the bike are on the Left Side.
My guess is luggage issue. I still ride with the (Original) Melted RH rear panel from My Error, as a reminder. All it took was an Odd Cross-wind to get my panel and soft saddle bag.
Looking at his bike, it looks like plastic Luggage. Who knows how much stuff was stacked on it/over it?
I've got a Near Perfect E-bay part, for a spare of course.
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I'm going with Ocham's Razor on this one: His spare fuel can leaked on the exhaust. Poof!

Take a look at the "before" photo and you can make out a red object on the right side.

Fuel cans are traditionally red...

FWIW, I made a donation to this young man's cause.

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I'm going with Ocham's Razor on this one: His spare fuel can leaked on the exhaust. Poof!

Take a look at the "before" photo and you can make out a red object on the right side.

Fuel cans are traditionally red...

FWIW, I made a donation to this young man's cause.
Is that a fuel can, or his tail light?

I'm only asking because as I'm going through three night shifts this week (Tuesday - Thursday), I'm doing a little reading on ADV, reading an old thread and one guy posted about a minor exhaust problem... It almost seemed like in the pic below, the guy had too much gear around the tail end of the bike, and it restricted the air flow, allowing for hot exhaust gasses to build up and damage the tail light, etc.




I'm not saying that it wasn't supplemental fuel, and I'm not saying it was... Either way, it put a total kink in the guy's plan, so I followed your lead Dan, and did my part to see if we could get him back on the road.

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Bad deal. I really don't see how any fire of that magnitude could have developed without some kind of accelerant to fuel it, either a spare fuel can or some flammable liquid inside his bags.



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