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post #1 of 24 Old 06-13-2007, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
 
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Screw the law, screw 'em!!!

Today I was caught by a cop for "speeding" on my KLR and he was like you were driving 47 mph instead of 45 mph. I started cracking up and he was like are you mocking me. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahah. No joke!!! I said no sir, I'm not mocking you. He fined me and was like if I catch you again... (I was tempted to say... if you catch me again what?) What a dumbass. Hahahahahahahahahaha. What I was really tempted to say was, And to think I pay your salary!

As Anthony Hopkins would say in Legends of the Fall... Screw the government... screw 'em!!!
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post #2 of 24 Old 06-13-2007, 09:51 PM
 
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I hear in MN that would cost you $2 if it was a secondary road and $10 if it was a highway.

2 over seems kind of ridiculous ( I know I can't spell)

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post #3 of 24 Old 06-14-2007, 01:39 AM
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That's messed up! City budget issues or something? They usually don't do squat around here till 6 or more over, 5 over is normal speeds on city streets. They seem to ignore people on highways until they hit 10 or more over. 8 over is normal speeds on the highways around here.

Officer must have an issue with motorcycles. There was a thread on a sport bike forum about a suspected officer targeting/harassing sport bikes. A rider was ticketed, went to court and got a sopena for the officers ticket history, which he knew would show a severe bias toward sport bikes, and the ticket was thrown out and the officer questioned about his tactics. Could have been a fairytale, but didn't sound like it.

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post #4 of 24 Old 06-14-2007, 08:05 AM
 
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To Speed or Not to Speed?

Greetings Amin!

Sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with a fellow law enforcement officer. Having worked in California over ten years ago, I am relatively still familiar with the laws, etc., since I am still in the profession. Two miles over the speed limit seems unusual unless you happened to be driving through a school zone. Even then that seems unusual. The general public wants greater traffic enforcement around schools. I know some officers do not give the 10 MPH grace before ticketing. You should hear some of the calls I have received from the public expecting more traffic enforcement. Besides technically being over the posted speed (by two miles an hour as stated), I'm guessing the officer was not too fond of your attitude and chose to write you by the letter of the law rather than the spirit of the law. That's why I tell my kids (I'm a school resource officer in a high school) that attitude is everything. Now you might have been the nicest guy, and your attitude might not have mattered anyway. I guess we will never know. I'm curious, what time of the day it was? Were you in a residential neighborhood, school zone or business district? What jurisdiction cited you? Have you had problems with the law before? Have you had interaction with this officer before? Not saying I can help you, but it helps to better understand the situation.

Safe driving and I guess you'll have to pay closer attention to your speed in that jurisdiction.

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post #5 of 24 Old 06-14-2007, 03:25 PM Thread Starter
 
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Hey all...

Last night I was viewing my ticket, and the next thing I knew was that the police officer that caught me works for my friend's dad (who just so happens to be the police chief here) and he called the a-hole into the station yelled his ass off at him (I guess it was the 25th time the asshole officer has booked people for doing that) and said that if he books anybody else for doing something similar to that, he's gonna throw him out of his station. Ahahahahahahhahaha... later i went to my friends house and we chilled there cursing at cops (just not his dad) and drank a beer. Oh ya I disputed my money and got every cent back...



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post #6 of 24 Old 06-14-2007, 06:29 PM
 
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Last night I was viewing my ticket, and the next thing I knew was that the police officer that caught me works for my friend's dad (who just so happens to be the police chief here) and he called the a-hole into the station yelled his ass off at him (I guess it was the 25th time the asshole officer has booked people for doing that) and said that if he books anybody else for doing something similar to that, he's gonna throw him out of his station. Ahahahahahahhahaha... later i went to my friends house and we chilled there cursing at cops (just not his dad) and drank a beer. Oh ya I disputed my money and got every cent back...



Correct me if I am mistaken, but you were pulled over by an officer of the law for going two miles over the speed limit. This officer might have pulled you over because there were complaints in that area of bikes speeding (as we all know that there are allot of people on bikes that drive dangerously). In my township every school year they remind the public to observe posted school zone speed limits do to the fact that they will pull you over even if you are going 1 mile-an-hour over the posted limit.

Lets just state hypothetically, that the officer was going to give you a warning. By you laughing at him you automatically place him on defense. Any prudent person in that situation would receive it as disregard towards their position. In theory this would facilitate the reasoning behind the ticket and not the warning.

As to the statement you made in your post. Later I went to my friends house and we chilled there cursing at cops (just not his dad) and drank a beer. This displays your mindset towards law enforcement which the officer probably saw immediately upon speaking with you. I would have also given you a ticket instead of a warning

Keep in mind that police are human also. There are good and bad officers, and they too make mistakes. I am not an officer of the law, but I do have utmost admiration for their profession. They put their life on the line to keep our streets and city safe so people like you are protected on and off the streets. The true fact of the matter is, be it 2 or 10 miles an hour over the speed limit, you were still breaking the law which is in place for a reason.

Just my two cents worth.

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post #7 of 24 Old 06-15-2007, 01:00 AM
 
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Screw the law? Which law? Speeding?

Greetings to the Rook and other good people!

Thankfully Rook, most people see life as you do with regards to law enforcement officers, i.e., there are good officers and bad officers, good doctors and bad doctors, good teachers and bad teachers, good KLR owners and bad KLR owners, you get the picture. I noticed Amin did not provide more detailed information which could perhaps explain why he was stopped for 2 MPH over the speed limit. Like you mentioned Rook, was it a school zone? Did citizens call in complaining about speeding motorcycles and Amin happened to match the description? Was Amin associated with some outlaw KLR motorcycle gang? Does Amin have a reputation that he isn't proud of and is he hanging with questionable people? Was a warning intended by the officer but Amin failed the "attitude" test and was given a citation because Amin wasn't receptive to a possible warning? I find it difficult to believe that "he (the chief) called the a-hole into the station yelled his ass off at him (I guess it was the 25th time the asshole officer has booked people for doing that) and said that if he books anybody else for doing something similar to that, he's gonna throw him out of his station." This just isn't how things are done and besides, the Chief would have violated personnel rules by discussing any discipline issues outside the department, if in fact they happened as Amin is suggesting. Also, if this was the "25th" time the officer did this transgression; do you think the police chief would still have this officer working on his department being such a liability? I think not. Additionally, Amin quoted, "Oh ya I disputed my money and got every cent back..." The fact is you either pay the fine or argue your case in court. There isn't getting "every cent back" as he seems to imply that he had paid and if he didn't pay the fine, how does he get "every cent back? In other words, this would not have happened as is being suggested. Some how we just don't have the whole story. Also, one isn't "booked" for an infraction (speeding) as Amin has suggested that this officer has done 25 times before. This would be abuse of his color of authority and the officer and department would be open to major litigation.

How do I know this? Well 24 years of professional law enforcement experience. During my service to the good citizens of California and now Idaho, I, like other law enforcement professionals try to apply the laws fairly as was intended by the law makers (the people). Every now and then we get a disappointed citizen like Amin. Sorry Amin that you had such a bad experience. But when you start this thread with "Screw the law, screw 'em!!!" What you're saying is screw that officer and not the citizens of your good community that want their traffic laws enforced, right? Or are you saying that because of your bad experience with this officer, you view all officers as you do him? Besides, that is another topic for discussion. By the way, last I learned that would be called prejudice.

By the way Amin, what city does this officer work for and what is his name? I bet there is another side to this story.

Enough said.

Regards

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post #8 of 24 Old 06-15-2007, 02:37 AM
 
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One more comment . . .

If you noticed, the thread Amin originally started regarding his cite was one day ago where he states he was cited that day and then he states, "Last night I was viewing my ticket, and the next thing I knew was that the police officer that caught me works for my friend's dad (who just so happens to be the police chief here) and he called the a-hole into the station yelled his ass off at him (I guess it was the 25th time the asshole officer has booked people for doing that) and said that if he books anybody else for doing something similar to that, he's gonna throw him out of his station. Ahahahahahahhahaha... later i went to my friends house and we chilled there cursing at cops (just not his dad) and drank a beer. Oh ya I disputed my money and got every cent back..."

Okay, let me get this straight. Amin is cited a day ago for speeding 2 MPH over the posted speed limit and appears to have paid his citation the same day or the very next day? Amin, you can't pay your citation as you seemed to have implied by stating, "Oh ya I disputed my money and got every cent back...". You see, in California, the court must get the officers copy of the citation he issued you and then they access how much you will pay based upon your driving history. Something stinks in Denmark my friend.

Sounds like a fairytale.

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post #9 of 24 Old 06-16-2007, 03:11 PM
 
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A closing comment . . .

Greetings to all good KLR people!

This is the PM message I got from Amin. I guess he didn't want to provide the requested information, so you be the judge as to his story.

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Last night I was viewing my ticket, and the next thing I knew was that
the police officer that caught me works for my friend's dad (who just
so happens to be the police chief here) and he called the a-hole into
the station yelled his ass off at him (I guess it was the 25th time the
asshole officer has booked people for doing that) and said that if he
books anybody else for doing something similar to that, he's gonna throw
him out of his station. Ahahahahahahhahaha... later i went to my
friends house and we chilled there cursing at cops (just not his dad) and
drank a beer. Oh ya I disputed my money and got every cent back...




***************

End


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