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post #1 of 11 Old 12-26-2013, 01:27 PM Thread Starter
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For a couple of years I used a Raptor petcock (non-vacuum) with a quick-disconnect to fill my Svea camping stove. The quick disconnect started dripping and I'd clean and lube it and it would be OK for a while then start dripping more. Repeat. I just have a plain fuel line in there now. I'm sure the quick-disconnect was made for shop use instead of filling a little stove every other day in dusty conditions.

I have a new stove with a larger tank, but I will still need to fill the stove about twice a week. I think a "Y" and a second petcock would make filling the stove easier, but it could also drain the tank faster by being knocked open. A vacuum cap and clamp could work as a dust cap and a fail-safe cover -- maybe?

Looking at the stock petcock I could make a square gasket and use the vacuum inlet as a second gas outlet, but this still relies on a second, inline, petcock.

Anyone have an easier system for filling their stove? The disconnect worked OK and it's great to always have lots of stove fuel, but I want stone reliable.

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The only thing that I have been comfortable with a Raptor petcock, a pinch-type hose clamp, and a washer on the petcock nib to make removing the hose easier.

I tried an in-line T with a cap but it made me nervous.

What's your new stove?

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The only thing that I have been comfortable with a Raptor petcock, a pinch-type hose clamp, and a washer on the petcock nib to make removing the hose easier.

I tried an in-line T with a cap but it made me nervous.

What's your new stove?

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Thanks for responding.

The Raptor fuel outlet is on the side but mounted on the KLR it points to 2:00 -- or a little up from level. So with the Raptor petcock the fuel line must remain attached to the petcock and separate somewhere else to fill a stove. The carb end of the line is burried behind all kinds of plumbing on this bike.

Let me say again, THANKS for responding. The stock petcock has the fuel outlet pointed down. That means that the fuel line can be removed entirely IF I can get the stove in place under the petcock. That's the answer! Bingo.

I understand that the T and cap would make you nervous. It makes me nervous which is why I ask.

The new stove is a Primus Omnilite.
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I've had the Raptor petcock for a long time, first on the stock tank and now on my IMS. I just carry an 8" length of hose in the stove bag. When I pull the fuel line off the petcock (the washer makes it easy, even if it's 'stuck') I attach the short bit and fill the stove.

The Primus is a nice stove. I'm a bit more primitive, either using the SVEA or a 442.

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I'm trying to avoid carrying loose fuel vapors in any of the luggage. I can drain the fuel line of the new stove then close the valves at each end so there's not much gassy surface exposed.

I have been burning pump gas in my Svea for a couple of years and it performs perfectly. There is a very slight tendency to clog more, but it's infrequent. The stove body and windscreen got very sooty. I can't get my windscreen off with just fingertips, so every fillup I had to wrap my hand around the windscreen and cup a hand under the fuel tank to twist them apart. Major sooty hands every fillup. Sometimes in camps where I had limited water. My hands were dirty too often and camping doesn't have to be dirty.

Wait. Did I type the same thing in response to you in the trip report? Oh well, I don't think I mentioned there that I used pump gas in the Svea the whole trip.
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No worries, most times I'm like a goldfish; I have a short term memory of about 8 seconds.

Converting a stock petcock to manual should do the trick for you.

I often run the 442 on pump gas. Not so much the SVEA.

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why not a tee and a simple inline valve that can be bought at a small engine shop for about $3? they come straight and with a 90' bend

I also have a SVEA 123 with a nestling pot set.....sounds like a 747 heating your dinner but the quiet is deafening when you shut it off LOL
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That would work just fine and would probably be the way I'd go if I needed to do this every day.

Filling a stove, though, is a once a week thing, so dead simple and reliable is what I've gone for.

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why not a tee and a simple inline valve that can be bought at a small engine shop for about $3? they come straight and with a 90' bend
I'll look around at other valves that might work. Thanks.

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I also have a SVEA 123 with a nestling pot set.....sounds like a 747 heating your dinner but the quiet is deafening when you shut it off LOL

I don't know if you're reading the trip report that I still haven't completed down in the "reports" section of this forum. But if look there you'll see that I'm an early riser. Real early. Early enough that stove noise is a real problem for me (and maybe for people trying to laze around in their tents until 05:00 (mid morning)).

Last year I bought a Coleman multi-fuel stove (I don't think it was a 442 which (I think) is no longer available) and it was quiet and clean and all kinds of great things until after about a month the control wire jammed. It's a needle valve, but the needle is 4" long and goes around 2 bends.

So back to the rocket launch sounds of Svea. My new stove sounds the same. I have resigned myself to wasting half the day and not starting a stove until late morning (06:30 or 07:00 depending on the surroundings).
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Hi Grinnin,
I'm up to date your your ride report....what does D2D stand for? great report and pictures
It brings back good memories. My bride (of 43 years) and I went up in 2000 from Indianapolis two up on a wing...up the haul road to the circle, down to Anchorage where I got a new rear tire at the Honda shop there. We then went to Haines after the Kenai Penn where we caught Alaskan Marine Hyway down to B.C. then the ferry to Vancover Island down to Wa and down the west coast to N Calif before heading east towards home
we also soaked our sore bodies at the Laird Hot Springs and spent a night there.
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p.s. while the svea sounds like a jet when you are near it sitting at the table, it seems to not be too bad at a distance. and....I don't leave my key on it...just use it to adjust LOL...no burnt fingers

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