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post #1 of 16 Old 04-12-2014, 08:50 PM Thread Starter
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What grade of fuel do you use for your bike?
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premium. I pay about 10% more for premium fuel but this is offset by the fact that premium in my area has no alcohol in it as compared to 10% alcohol content in the regular fuel. I hate the alcohol fuels. If regular was alcohol free I would have no issue using it as the KLR doesn't have high enough compression to need the higher octane rated premium fuel. With premium in the bike can sit for months over winter and start perfectly well on the old fuel in the spring. Not so with the regular fuel!!
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I use the premium in Chaos. I figure sure, I'm paying a little more - but the price for premium is still lower than the price for diesel in Toothless (my Ram 2500). Couple that with the increased fuel economy Chaos gets vs. the fuel mileage in Toothless (roughly 16 mpg), and I'm still coming out ahead.

...so I don't really care about paying an extra $0.20 per gallon for the premium stuff.


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I run regular in my bikes and lawn/snow equipment. I'm contemplating switching over to premium though after I had problems getting one of my snowblowers running last fall. I winterized both of my bikes but neglected to "summerize" one of my snowblowers... No way would it fire until I drained the float bowl, then it started right up! I can only guess that the ethanol settled out over the summer and it was trying to start on alcohol. My neighbor had the same problem on his snowblower. I really hate ethanol!

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I run regular in my bikes and lawn/snow equipment. I'm contemplating switching over to premium though after I had problems getting one of my snowblowers running last fall. I winterized both of my bikes but neglected to "summerize" one of my snowblowers... No way would it fire until I drained the float bowl, then it started right up! I can only guess that the ethanol settled out over the summer and it was trying to start on alcohol. My neighbor had the same problem on his snowblower. I really hate ethanol!
I would have to agree with that!

When they mandated up to 10% ethanol in gasoline, my 2000 Dodge Dakota's mileage DROPPED by 10%. That means, for a (supposedly) "environmentally friendly" fuel, I ended up having to burn MORE of the crap to go the same distance...

...so where's the "improvement" for reducing tailpipe emissions?


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87 average pump octane, is KLR recommended Minimum here in the States.
Alcohol Free if I can get it.

So, here at home, 1 station has Alcohol Free Premium #91. That is what it gets 'topped' up with when I get back from a ride. I check my fuel mileage every fill-up.
I've talk to the managers/owners of other stations, to see if one could get #87 and maybe another get #85 Alcohol Free. Was told "sorry, can't".

I do also believe that Pure Gasoline (alcohol free), has a longer storage life.
But NONE of it stores as long as it did back in the '70s. Even if over the counter stabilizers are added.

The US EPA made the gas companies take the stabilizers OUT. How about Canadian fuel? Refinery stabilized or not?

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87 average pump octane, is KLR recommended Minimum here in the States.
Alcohol Free if I can get it.

So, here at home, 1 station has Alcohol Free Premium #91. That is what it gets 'topped' up with when I get back from a ride. I check my fuel mileage every fill-up.
I've talk to the managers/owners of other stations, to see if one could get #87 and maybe another get #85 Alcohol Free. Was told "sorry, can't".

I do also believe that Pure Gasoline (alcohol free), has a longer storage life.
But NONE of it stores as long as it did back in the '70s. Even if over the counter stabilizers are added.

The US EPA made the gas companies take the stabilizers OUT. How about Canadian fuel? Refinery stabilized or not?
The removed stabilizer you refer to was tetraethyl lead and was banned for auto use because because of the lead component.The lead lubricated the valves and seats as well as stabilizing the fuel.It was used in avation fuels for many more years, not only for the stability but also because the lead was the lubricant of choice for the valves. I cant think of the replacment right now but it is not very good.
The alcohol is more of a filler than anything in my view. If the oil companies could figure out how to put significant amounts of water in fuel they would do that too. Think sawdust filler in hamburger.
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justjeff,
The lead was the least expensive/best octane booster/valve face cushion.
I do Not think it had any stabilizer effect, I could easily be incorrect.

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