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post #1 of 26 Old 09-20-2014, 01:21 PM Thread Starter
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So, then I just stood there looking stunned....

Everyone has those moments, when someone suggests something which is "oh so obvious" that it's beyond a face palm.

A recent one for me was when my friend Mike & I were installing a Stebel Freeway Blaster horn onto his Gen1. We'd previously installed a horn relay so only needed to swap in a better horn.

I've likely installed 20 horns onto Gen1's so, yawn, started removing the old one in preparation to the install when he observed, "Why not just add the new one instead of taking off the old one?".

So, then I just stood there looking stunned....
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post #2 of 26 Old 09-20-2014, 02:16 PM
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Well, WHY NOT, Normk?

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You must have been looking at my face. :-)

It amazes me with regards the extent that we think so much within borders or in a linear fashion. Of course, we all can point to most of the innovations/improvements to anything and identify that these were largely outside the borders.

Not the only one for me but there must be many more out there.

How about you, Jim? What's your favorite/most recent?

I'll likely win in a "how dumb can you be contest" but it is nice to at least have some competition. :-)

The horn is even more amusing to me because I have been well aware that some markets have a second horn which is apparently mounted to the ears lower down on the coolant tank frame. I'm almost to forehead smacking....

A friend did a much smaller forehead smack a short while ago when he watched me loosening the side panel bolts on my bike. When he saw that I left the bolts in the panel, he observed, "You might want to put those bolts into the parts pan so they don't get lost if the panels get moved."

I pointed out the little squares of inner tube which had a hole snipped in the center. The hole is just big enough to slide over the thread on the bolt and goes between the panel and the frame ear.

When the bolt is backed out, it stays there because of the rubber, unless one turns it out too much. Saves looking for the @#$%^&* bolts, especially when doing some trail side repair. :-) Of course that's simply not thinking of something new/different so not on the "dumb" scale.
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I don't know. There have been some around here that would be aghast at the unnecessary weight of the vestigial stock horn.



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Not motorcycle-related, but I would like to enter the "dumb" contest.

When I was in the Army, we had a helicopter broken down with a bad engine starter about an hour's flight from Ft. Lewis, WA.

We were dispatched with a replacement starter. When we arrived the crew of the other aircraft was doing something else, so I removed the starter and then promptly dropped it about 10 feet onto the pavement below, shattering it.

That was when I was told I had removed the wrong starter; the good one. So, we were still a starter short.

Had to fly back to Lewis and get another starter, than back to Yakima to get 2 good starters on the aircraft.

So, figuring 2 unplanned flight hours at around $2000/hr apiece and 2 starters at around $1500 apiece (the good one I dropped and the one that unnecessarily had to go on the unaffected engine) that little debacle cost you US taxpayers about $7,000 for no good reason.

I personify Your Tax Dollars At Work.

That might not be the truly "dumbest" thing I've ever done because they've all kind of blended together over the years and specific memories are hard to pick out, but it was definitely the most expensive.

Probably for sheer stupidity, the crown would have to go to a time right out of high school when another guy and I were horsing around with one of those Buck 8" hunting knives with the black plastic handle. It got dropped on the ground. We both reached for it. The other guy grabbed the handle. I grabbed the blade. We both pulled.

I got about 10 stitches out of that one. I would like to say I was drunk, but I was as sober as could be. What the hell I was thinking when I did that I'll never know. Hell, I don't even want to know.....



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My bike's got the stock horn on there unhooked next to the LOUD horn. I'm that lazy. I'll own that. And accept the added weight.




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I wouldn't mind doing a horn upgrade one of these days; probably should.



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I recommend using a relay as the voltage drop in the horn circuit limits volume and a big horn may eventually cook the horn button contacts.

Funny, I automatically think of doing voltage drops and such but seem incapable of simpler tasks. I've learned not to comment on my wife's slacks size so that's something. :-)
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I mounted the relay and new horn near the old horn and used the factory wires to trigger the relay. All I had to run was one 16g wire from the battery to the relay then to the new horn and a ground for the new horn. Easypeasy!
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That's the way I do them also as it is easypeasy!

FWIW, I also add an additional couple of wires off the "hot" wire to the horn Brown wire terminal as it's easy to include when soldering or crimping the spade lug.

The Brown wire is switched power by the ignition key so makes an ideal circuit to trigger a Main Power Relay, Headlight Relays, Accessory Relay, or Cooling Fan Relay modification.

Many people run a lead back from the City Light bullet connector (Brown) but tapping off the horn is closer, easier and avoids having the wire running through all that moving stuff around the steering.
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