Electric vehicle battery improvement - Kawasaki KLR 650 Forum
KLR & Other Motorcycle Related Discussion Grab a seat and discuss whatever you like about the KLR or other related topics. Within reason.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 16 Old 10-26-2014, 01:41 PM Thread Starter
4th Gear
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Chilliwack, BC, Canada
Posts: 1,481
Electric vehicle battery improvement

An old friend who is into electric bicycles has been considering an electric car. Here's a recent post:

My expertise in procrastination has once more been rewarded! After careful consideration (read: fear of committing) I determined that a plug in electric car was just not practical at this time ( too much $$$$$$) and then I read the scientific journal this morning covering a new lithium ion battery development:

"This next generation of lithium-ion batteries will enable electric vehicles to charge 20 times faster than the current technology. With it, electric vehicles will also be able to do away with frequent battery replacements. The new battery will be able to endure more than 10,000 charging cycles -- 20 times more than the current 500 cycles of today's batteries."

The scientist who developed the technology of the current generation of batteries now has a battery chemistry of significant improvement. Using a titanium oxide gel for the anode material, his battery will allow an electric car to recharge 70% in just 5 minutes, the time it takes to fill a petrol powered car. The battery will have a lifespan of about 20 years for an electric car. The manufacturing technique is easily adaptable to batteries being made today. Time to production will be about 2 years.

Procrastination has it benefits!

Better to be right accidentally than try to be perfect.

Cheers
Normk is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 16 Old 10-26-2014, 07:03 PM
Moderator
 
klr4evr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Fort Sask , Alberta, Canada
Posts: 3,481
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to klr4evr
So far the only "electric" car I like is the Mclaren P1. Unfortunately I don't see myself owning one.

My Kaw Barn - 2004 KLR, 2006 Concours (sold), 1997 Bayou 400.

"It's a friggen motorcycle, it's not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you shit your pants every now and then. "

<--- Please fill in the 'Location' on your personal profile page. User CP/Edit Your Details

This information makes it much easier for other members to answer/comment on your posts.
klr4evr is offline  
post #3 of 16 Old 10-27-2014, 11:43 AM
2nd Gear
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 106
Tesla S, if they didn't cost $100k.
klrophile is offline  
 
post #4 of 16 Old 10-27-2014, 02:08 PM
Moderator
 
klr4evr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Fort Sask , Alberta, Canada
Posts: 3,481
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to klr4evr
Still cheaper than a Mclaren but not as fast.

My Kaw Barn - 2004 KLR, 2006 Concours (sold), 1997 Bayou 400.

"It's a friggen motorcycle, it's not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you shit your pants every now and then. "

<--- Please fill in the 'Location' on your personal profile page. User CP/Edit Your Details

This information makes it much easier for other members to answer/comment on your posts.
klr4evr is offline  
post #5 of 16 Old 10-27-2014, 07:26 PM
4th Gear
 
larry31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,063
Until they put in charging stations every where, my choice would be a hibred.
My wife's car is a 2005 Prius. Almost 80k on it now, and outside of tires, our only repair was a broken bracket on rear suspension.
It still has the original ( small battery... Used to power the computer, and other small stuff. )
No problems at all with the main drive batteries. We get around 45 mpg average.

Full electrics are nice if you only use it within the limited miles where they run between charges.

Ageing Gracefully



2017 Yamaha XT250
1990 Honda NX250 (Green/White)
2011 Kawasaki KLR 650 (Orange & White )

My KLR Page..http://www.powers31.info/2011_KLR650.htm

Mod's to KLR:
Power socket, L.E.D. Battery Indicator, Camera bag holder
Custom Saddlebag frames .
Louder horns, Firstgear Onyx tail bag.
Custom Aluminum Skid Plate.
Cut down seat with Custom pad.
Go Pro Camera mount.
Doo-Hicky
larry31 is offline  
post #6 of 16 Old 10-28-2014, 12:08 AM Thread Starter
4th Gear
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Chilliwack, BC, Canada
Posts: 1,481
Off the subject but have to ask, Larry. Have you heard Jeff Dunham's comedy routine involving driving their Prius? It cracks me up. :-)
Normk is offline  
post #7 of 16 Old 10-28-2014, 06:25 AM
4th Gear
 
larry31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,063
Quote:
Originally Posted by Normk View Post
Off the subject but have to ask, Larry. Have you heard Jeff Dunham's comedy routine involving driving their Prius? It cracks me up. :-)
No I haven't. Is there a YouTube link, or something?

Ageing Gracefully



2017 Yamaha XT250
1990 Honda NX250 (Green/White)
2011 Kawasaki KLR 650 (Orange & White )

My KLR Page..http://www.powers31.info/2011_KLR650.htm

Mod's to KLR:
Power socket, L.E.D. Battery Indicator, Camera bag holder
Custom Saddlebag frames .
Louder horns, Firstgear Onyx tail bag.
Custom Aluminum Skid Plate.
Cut down seat with Custom pad.
Go Pro Camera mount.
Doo-Hicky
larry31 is offline  
post #8 of 16 Old 10-28-2014, 11:31 AM Thread Starter
4th Gear
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Chilliwack, BC, Canada
Posts: 1,481
He mentions it quite often but this one with Walter might do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf81dE4DS20


Quote:
Originally Posted by larry31 View Post
No I haven't. Is there a YouTube link, or something?
Normk is offline  
post #9 of 16 Old 10-28-2014, 12:42 PM
Pretty in Pink, dunno why
 
Tom Schmitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Redondo Beach
Posts: 7,543
Garage

Tom [email protected]

“She went out slowly. The way she did it hadn’t been learned at business college.” -Philip Marlowe

“'Why' and 'How' are words so important they cannot be too often used.” -Napoleon Bonaparte


Sting like a butterfly.
Tom Schmitz is online now  
post #10 of 16 Old 10-28-2014, 05:45 PM
5th Gear
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,289
Charge to 70 % capacity in 5 minutes?

What current flow will this procedure require?

Greater than your average household current capacity (even on 220-volt systems), I'd imagine; greater than available from current automobile charging stations, I'd bet.

Heard a rumor: Electricity is sometimes generated from incinerating, "fossil fuels." Burning oil/coal at a generating plant, then transporting the electric power over long distances through lossy cables, produces a greater "carbon footprint" than . . . dare I say it? Operating a conventional internal combustion fossil fuel engine for the same energy output.

Thus, analyzing the total picture, electric-powered vehicles aren't necessarily very "green."

Never mind the fish-kill and other environmental destruction wrought by the Chinese battery manufacturers.

Electric vehicles nonetheless offer feel-good, self-righteous smugness for their trendy and chic owners, who relish their tax-credit subsidies from the government (actually, from taxpayers). The myth of environmentally-correct "green" power will live on.

Not a problem; free enterprise at work. Well, not exactly free, given the government support and subsidies to the industry and its consumers. Consumers should be free to buy the products they want. Yet, I can't endorse the myth of the "clean, green" electric vehicle, just yet.
Damocles is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Kawasaki KLR 650 Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Front brake improvement Normk KLR & Other Motorcycle Related Discussion 9 09-02-2014 11:36 AM
My Sport Utility Vehicle jameslemoore Show Off Your Bike 9 09-26-2012 02:18 PM
Suspension improvement question stickman_150 1987 to 2007 Wrenching & Mods 7 08-16-2011 08:14 AM
Recreational Vehicle? Lockjaw Never let your guard down 35 04-11-2009 02:35 PM
Jardine Exhaust Improvement DXKLR 1987 to 2007 Wrenching & Mods 6 04-20-2008 02:59 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome