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post #1 of 9 Old 12-27-2008, 12:25 AM Thread Starter
 
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When the engine is cold i have no problems getting into neutral when stationary. Once the engine is at normal running temperature i struggle to get neutral. It goes from 1st to 3rd and vice-versa. Is this a common problem or does the clutch need adjusting?

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post #2 of 9 Old 12-27-2008, 07:51 AM
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Are you saying it misses 2nd gear altogether?
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post #3 of 9 Old 12-27-2008, 11:39 AM
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Mine's a little difficult getting into neutral when warm but it goes to second. Never skipped up to 3rd. I am still in the breakin period so it might get better.

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Hi guys. I must have been half asleep. No it doesn't skip to 3rd. It skips neutral from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 1st
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post #5 of 9 Old 01-03-2009, 12:56 PM
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Totally normal. Nothing to worry about.




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Could be your clutch adjustment at the lever. I like mine to only have about a 1/4" free play.

May be the oil you are using. I tried Castrol GTX once and it made the gearbox feel really "sticky". Went to a MC specific JASO-MA approved oil and that problem went away. Just look for the JASO-MA cert on the back of the oil container.

Other things can make shifting hard or impossible. Warped clutch plates or bent shift forks. Don't ask me how I know this ;-)
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How long have you been riding, Andreas? It takes a little while to get the feel. But every bike I have ever ridden tends to skip neutral sometimes. Oil can make a difference, flash is right.

False neutrals can happen between shifts, too. There are some good diagrams of how the gearing works if you search for them.

Basically, you don't have to push up hard to get to neutral from first. Chances are you are pushing up too hard and thereby skipping neutral...same for going back down. That's what I mean by feel. For instance, I have trouble if I am wearing sneakers (I usually wear boots) because it feels different. The pressure applied is therefore different.

If your bike is in good condition, I would assume this is just normal...gears on bikes work differently than on cars. Comes with the territory.




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post #8 of 9 Old 01-14-2009, 09:51 AM
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May I ask what oil you are using? I have had this problem in the past and it usually happens when it is hot. Since changing to a synthetic I have had few incidents.

This is not a fact just a personal observation.

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Good call, Tim. Something to look into for sure.




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