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post #11 of 20 Old 10-18-2016, 06:28 PM
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BTW, I should add that, out of curiosity, I am now running Shinko 804/805s on my KLR. Month or so ago, I got a flat on the front. The tire was so robust, I made the 6 mile trip back home before fixing the flat. Even with zero pressure, the tire bead stayed put, I made it home, and there was no damage to tire, tube, or wheel!
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I have to say that my experience with Shinko has been all bad.
Several years ago returning home on the highway from the western end of the TAT I found myself in need of a new front tire to make it back to Houston. I stopped in every little town along the way looking for a tire that would fit. Finally found a Golden Boy (Shinko). It had a max speed rating of either 65 or 70 mph.

Later when prepping the bike for another through ride on the TAT I decided to try a Shinko 244 on the rear. It has a similar tread pattern to the Kenda 270s I had been using with good results. I ran it 600 miles on the highway to Memphis on the way to the start of the TAT. In that 600 miles it shucked off 13 center knobs, so I had to find a new tire in Memphis. The only dual sport tire I could find in the greater Memphis area was a Shinko 244. I took it but, was not happy and decide to return to Houston to regroup. In the first 400 miles I was watching it closely for pressure and temperature, but that Shinko 244 shucked off 6 or 8 center knobs. I got a new Kenda 270, rode the highway to the Atlantic, rode the TAT to the Pacific and rode the highway back to Houston on the Kenda.

Fast forward to today. I have just returned from ridding the eastern section of the Trans-Canada Adventure Trail. I started off with a rear Kenda 270 that had about 5,000 miles left on it knowing I could make it up to the start in St. John's, Newfoundland and across the eastern section of the trail before needing a new tire. Back down in the states I started calling shops in Buffalo, NY looking for a rear tire. After calling eight shops I found only one tire that would fit - A SHINKO 244. It was all I could find and I thought I couldn't get three bad ones in a row. WRONG!!! Before I got to Terre Haute, ID it had shucked four center knobs.
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And I thought Thailand and China rubber products were questionable! From which country does Shinko come from?
We are glad the you made it home in one piece.
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Wow! If I had Gomotor's results, I would hate Shinko. That was horrible!
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From what I've been told, Shinko's are made in Korea using old Yokohama molds. Apparently they are not using Yokohama compounds, though.

I have run several Shinko's on street bikes. I used 712's on a CB 750 with great results. 10k miles and the front was good for another rear. The rears were getting about 2500-3000 k miles , but I'm hard on rear tires. They never wore funny or took much balance. These were 18" rear and 19" front.

On another CB I ran their 009 Raven front and rear in 17". Again, they wore and lasted well. Both bikes were regularly ridden at 70+ mph and frequently saw triple digit speeds. I chose the Raven's on a friends recommendation after he got 12k miles out of a rear and his front with 15k miles looked very healthy still. That's great mileage for a sticky sport bike tire.

One thing I noticed about the Shinko's I've owned is that they were exceptionally grippy. My KLR came with 705's ( badly worn and cupped), but their dry traction was still fantastic.

Perhaps Shinko needs to toughen up their compounds if they want a good reputation selling DS tires. I can only say good things about their street rubber, but I read alot about knobs coming off. Sounds like too soft of a compound for such tall lugs.


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:Established in 1946, the Shinko Group began as a manufacturer of bicycle tires and tubes in Osaka, Japan that today has become a burgeoning manufacture of rubber products.

In 1998 the Shinko Group purchased the motorcycle tire technology and molds from Yokohama Rubber Co., and began production of these products under the Shinko Tire brand. With manufacturing based in South Korea and design based in Japan, the company has seamlessly combined Japanese engineering and design principles with South Korean production and quality control standards. Today Shinko Tires produces approximately 200,000 motorcycle tires per month.

In the United States Shinko Tires are imported by Western Power Sports, Inc. (WPS), with corporate headquarters in Boise, Idaho. With a strong foothold on the power sports market, and with warehouses located in Boise, Idaho; Fresno, California; Ashley, Indiana; Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania; Midlothian, Texas; and Memphis, Tennessee, Shinko Tires USA-in conjunction with WPS-is proud to bring you the Shinko line of Sportbike, Cruiser, Scooter, Off road, and Dual sport tires."

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And I thought Thailand and China rubber products were questionable! From which country does Shinko come from?
We are glad the you made it home in one piece.
The tire says "made in KOREA" on it, but it doesn't indicate North or South. It is still on the bike and I can see cracks at the base of the leading edge of the other knobs, so I imagine if I kept riding it at highway speeds they would come off too.

I have been through about 13 sets of Kenda 270 with a similar tread pattern with no problem getting eight to ten thousand miles from them.
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After reading GoMotor's post (#16) I chickened out and bought a Kenda 270. It was a little cheaper than the Shinto, so it should fit in with regular KLR SOP.


Now, is this tire directional? I didn't see any arrows on the sidewall.


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Direction of rotation immaterial with the K270s, AFAIK. If not, I may have mounted one or more BACKWARDS!!!!!!!

No performance or mileage consequences, regardless, to the best of my knowledge and belief.
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Direction of rotation immaterial with the K270s, AFAIK. If not, I may have mounted one or more BACKWARDS!!!!!!!

No performance or mileage consequences, regardless, to the best of my knowledge and belief.
More comments on the Kenda 270 50/50 tire.

There is no directional arrow on the tires and the pattern is non directional, so you can mount them either way and you can reverse them after several thousand miles to reduce the feathering that any tire will get. If I have to have the tire off for any reason, I will reverse it on reinstall, but it is not worth it to me to remove and reinstall just to reverse the rotation alone.

I really like the Kenda 270 tread pattern for dual sport riding. It is not too rough or noisy on the highway and doesn't walk out too much or suddenly in turns. It is perfect for gravel and small rocks since the gravel pieces get in between the tread blocks and stick out like tiger claws to grip the surface. They are OK in sand and mud. Nothing usable on the road is really good in sand and mud. Even then mud tires just let you get stuck farther out in deeper mud.

IRC makes a GP-1 and Shinko makes a 244 with similar patterns to the Kenda. I have already given my experience with the Shinko above and have not tried the more expensive IRC.

I usually get my tires from motorcyclesuperstore.com shipped quickly and reasonably priced. They have a service with many independent small service shops around the country allowing travelers in need of tires to order tires quick shipped to hold for pickup someplace near your route. I used one of the three shops they had in Grants Pass, OR when I really needed a tire while ridding the Trans-America Trail. Out or curiosity I asked about the small town of Alva, OK where I had overnighted on the trail. They had a shop there too.
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post #20 of 20 Old 08-28-2019, 06:08 PM
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Check out the Motoz Tractionator GPS tires. Great 50/50 tire. They will last longer and offer better traction than some of the less expensive tires on the market. motoztires.com
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