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post #1 of 21 Old 05-04-2017, 06:37 PM Thread Starter
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How much does a dualsport weigh?

I read a post elsewhere several years ago that was an attempt to put real world weights to stock dualsport, dual purpose and ADV bikes. As there seems to be much confusion and misinformation on the subject, I took some of the data, removed some of the less useful information and saved it. Here it is;

BMW R1150GS Adventure, 604 lbs, Motorcyclist, Dec. 2002 (8.0 gallons)
BMW R1200GS Adventure, 581 lbs, Motorcyclist, Feb. 2007 (8.7 gallons)
Aprilia Caponord, 575 lbs, Motorcyclist, Dec. 2002 (6.6 gallons)
BMW R1100GS Adventure, 572 lbs, Motorcyclist, Sept. 1994, July 1995 (6.6 gallons)
Triumph Tiger, 566 lbs, Cycle World, Aug. 1995 (6.6 gallons)
Triumph Tiger, 565 lbs, Motorcyclist, July 1995 (6.5 gallons)
Triumph Tiger 955i, 555 lbs, Motorcyclist, Dec. 2002 (6.3 gallons)
BMW 1200GS, 544 lbs, Motorcyclist, Sept. 2004
BMW R100GS Paris-Dakar, 535 lbs, Cycle, Jan. 1990 (9.3 gallons)
Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom, 530 lbs, Motorcyclist, May. 2005
Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom, 524 lbs, Motorcyclist, Dec. 2002 (5.8 gallons)
Triumph Scrambler, 522 lbs, Cycle World, May 2006 (4.4 gallons)
KTM 990 Adventure, 517 lbs, Motorcyclist, Feb. 2007 (5.8 gallons)
Triumph Tiger 2007, 512 lbs, Motorcyclist (online) (5.2 gallons)
Buell XB12X Ulysses, 510 lbs, Motorcyclist, Feb. 2007 (4.4 gallons)
BMW R100GS, 508 lbs, Cycle, July 1991 (5.7 gallons)
Buell XB12X Ulysses, 496 lbs, Cycle World, Sept. 2005 (4.4 gallons)
KTM 950 Adventure, 495 lbs, Motorcyclist, Jan. 2004 (6.6 gallons)
KTM 950 Adventure, 493 lbs, Cycle World, July 2003 (6.6 gallons)
Suzuki DL650 V-Strom, 485 lbs, Sport Rider, May 2008 (5.8 gallons)
Kawasaki Versys, 457 lbs, Motorcyclist, April 2008 (5.0 gallons)
Honda XL600V Transalp, 448 lbs, Motorcyclist, Sept. 1989
BMW G650GS, 451 lbs, Motorcyclist, May 2009 (4.0 gallons)
Kawasaki KLR650, 442 lbs, Cycle World, Nov. 2007 (6.1 gallons)
Kawasaki KLR650, 435 lbs, Motorcyclist, May 2009 (6.1 gallons)
Kawasaki Tengai, 424 lbs, Motorcyclist, Oct. 1990
Kawasaki Tengai, 421 lbs, Cycle, July 1990 (6.1 gallons)
KTM 620 Adventure, 404 lbs, Cycle World, July 1998
Kawasaki KLR650, 401 lbs, Motorcyclist, Sep. 1989, Oct. 1990, Sept. 1992 (6.1 gallons)
Kawasaki KLR650, 399 lbs, Cycle, August 1988 (6.1 gallons)
Kawasaki KLR650, 398 lbs, Cycle, April 1987 (6.1 gallons)
Suzuki DR650S, 388 lbs, Motorcyclist, Sept. 1992
Suzuki DR650S, 387 lbs, Cycle, Dec. 1990 (5.5 gallons)
Suzuki DR650S, 386 lbs, Motorcyclist, Oct. 1990
Kawasaki KLX650, 379 lbs, Motorcyclist, Nov. 1993
Suzuki DR650, 367 lbs, Cycle World, Feb. 96
Honda XR650L, 347 lbs, Motorcyclist, Sept. 1992, Nov. 1993
Kawasaki KLR600, 341 lbs, Cycle, Nov. 1984
KTM 690 Enduro R, 336 lbs, Cycle World, June 2009
Suzuki DRZ400SM, 322 lbs, Cycle World, June 2005
Kawasak KLR250, 314 lbs, Cycle, Nov. 1989
Kawasaki KLR250, 312 lbs, Motorcyclist, Dec. 1990
Suzuki DR350S, 306 lbs, Cycle, Sept. 1990
Suzuki DR350S, 304 lbs, Motorcyclist, Oct. 1990
Yamaha WR250R, 301 lbs, Motorcyclist, Oct. 2008
Honda XR250L, 288 lbs, Cycle, Jan. 1991
Honda XR250L, 288 lbs, Motorcyclist, Dec. 1990
Husqvarna SMR450, 283 lbs, Cycle World, April 2007
Yamaha TW200WC, 278 lbs, Cycle, Sept. 1989
KTM 450EXC, 276 lbs, Cycle World, June 2007
TM EN450F, 275 lbs, Cycle World, Dec. 2007
BMW G450x, 274lbs, Dirt Rider, April 2009
Yamaha XT225, 268 lbs, Motorcyclist, Nov. 1992, Feb. 1995
Honda CRF230L, 267 lbs, Dirt Bike, May 2008
KTM 500 EXC, 266 lbs, OffRoad.com, March 2014
Yamaha XT250K, 265 lbs, Cycle, March 1983
Husqvarna TE250, 260 lbs, Cycle World, April 2004


*** all wet weights with fuel. Bikes with more than 2.5 Ė 3.0 galls of fuel have the capacity listed. To compare on equal ground (wet, no fuel), deduct the difference in fuel capacity at 6 lbs per gall. It isnít fair to penalize the bikes that have decent range, like the KLR!

If you remove the fuel weights, the popular dual purpose line up looks something like this:

- BMW G650GS - 427 lbs
- Gen2 KLR - 401lbs
- Gen1 DR650 - 367 lbs
- Gen1 KLR - 362 lbs
- Gen2 Dr650 - 347 lbs
- Honda XR650L - 330 lbs
- KTM 690R - 317 lbs
- DRZ400 - 306 lbs
- WR250R - 289 lbs

...of course many people add weight to the more "lightly equipped" bikes like windshields, luggage racks and larger tanks so you need to keep that in mind when making direct comparisons.

In addition, the "old school" Dual purpose bikes; the KLR, DR and XRL are much easier to lighten than newer more advanced bikes like the KTM, DRZ and WRR so that can narrow the gap as well. I removed 15 lbs from my KLR with the battery and silencer swap alone.

Finally, though the KLR may seem heavy in this company, it's useful to note that it's still much lighter than any ADV bike....most of which are over 450 lbs.

The lightest "dirt worthy" ADV twin is the old KTM 950 Adventure at 454 lbs. Though this is an old list and the newer bikes aren't on here, based on the manufacturer's claims the Africa Twin weighs 473 lbs or 504 lbs with DCT and the KTM1090R weighs 456 lbs.

If you really want light, it's pretty hard to beat a KTM500EXC which tips the scale at 253 lbs or about 15 - 20 lbs more than my KTM 2 stroke race bike.

....and in closing, I wasn't the one that weighed these bikes so if you don't agree with any of the weights listed, take it up with the magazine that wrote the article! ;-)

Cheers,
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post #2 of 21 Old 05-04-2017, 07:31 PM
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Makes me want to get mine weighed lol.

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Makes me want to get mine weighed lol.
Given all the various "specifications" that are out there . . . . I do believe that having it weighed yourself is the only true/honest way to know.
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Very few of us leave these bikes completely alone. Some (like myself) lighten them up with alloy bars, pegs, LiFePo batteries and aluminum silencers; others add centerstands, panniers and tall windscreens. I'd bet that at the extremes, say a lightened Gen1 vs. a Gen2 set up for touring that the difference could approach 100 lbs.....which is why you'll get such disparate comments on the bike's weight and offroad abilities.

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Makes me want to get mine weighed lol.
dan, One can weigh pretty bloody close with a bathroom scale and a helper.
Tip the bike up on side stand and slip the scale under a wheel. Then hold the bike vertical, have helper read scale. Repeat the tip & read on same wheel, to ensure accuracy.
Insert scale under other wheel and repeat.

It can be your choice to measure with full or empty fuel tank.

This will also give one an idea of the F/R weight bias when adding luggage and gear into said luggage.
Added weight positioned farther forward is usually more stable, sort of like leaning forward over the fuel tank.
Or stiffening the rear shock by either preload adjustment or spring replacement or Higher Quality stiffer shock, transfers more load onto the front tire to help stabilize the ride.
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dan, One can weigh pretty bloody close with a bathroom scale and a helper.
Tip the bike up on side stand and slip the scale under a wheel. Then hold the bike vertical, have helper read scale. Repeat the tip & read on same wheel, to ensure accuracy.
Insert scale under other wheel and repeat.

It can be your choice to measure with full or empty fuel tank.

This will also give one an idea of the F/R weight bias when adding luggage and gear into said luggage.
Added weight positioned farther forward is usually more stable, sort of like leaning forward over the fuel tank.
Or stiffening the rear shock by either preload adjustment or spring replacement or Higher Quality stiffer shock, transfers more load onto the front tire to help stabilize the ride.
I might try that for reference if nothing else. At any rate I'd expect the owners manual to be most accurate over the mc magazines. Curious what the gen 1 owners manual says compared to my gen 2 manual. I'm at work so can't post it til tonight.

After thinking about it though, since there's such a wide variation in weights what's the point in comparing other bikes because those could be skewed also.

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Given all the various "specifications" that are out there . . . . I do believe that having it weighed yourself is the only true/honest way to know.
Absolutely. I anticipated the list to be useful for people trying to decide which bike to buy or how their bike compares to others in the segment; the only way to know how much a modified bike weighs is to weigh it.

I was involved in a recent discussion of the AT where the comment was made that it was the lightest ADV twin on the market; turns out that the 1090R is lighter.

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I might try that for reference if nothing else. At any rate I'd expect the owners manual to be most accurate over the mc magazines. Curious what the gen 1 owners manual says compared to my gen 2 manual. I'm at work so can't post it til tonight.
actually, the OEM specs are the worst; for years they've been saying a Gen1 KLR weighs 337 lbs! Kawi is the last source I'd consider accurate on KLR weights. Notice the KLR600 at 341 lbs......I'd guess that this is where the original Gen1 weight (as stated) was pulled from and never changed.

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An old thread on the subject; http://www.klrforum.com/1987-2007-wr...-question.html

The numbers are a little different than the sources listed above but illustrate the issue.

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Surprises me this being a KLR forum the weights haven't been verified already. Stock as it came assembled from the factory would be the only accurate comparison.

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