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post #1 of 15 Old 03-15-2018, 02:42 PM Thread Starter
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I thought of resurrecting Normk's old thread, but decided better to start fresh instead of wasting everybodys time.

Who among us has or had a Suzuki SV650 road bike, about 2007 vintage?
Did you ever find the owners tool kit? LOL

More to the point, bike hasn't run in 6 months or more. New battery installed. Doesn't start & I don't hear any evidence of Fuel Injection Pump operating.

Does anyone have a service manual for a Suzuki SV650 / DL650?
Which pair of wires is Hot & Grd for fuel pump and which pair is 'Low Fuel light'?

From top Left of the release trigger we have,
-----------release slot-----------
BLK/Wht----------------RED/Blk
-----------------------------------
YEL/Red----------------BLK/Wht

I would think that it would be a centrifugal pump? And therefore I should be able to apply power and the pump should turn/run.

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post #2 of 15 Old 03-15-2018, 04:12 PM
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Hey Paul,

Just send me the Left Front Brake Caliper and I'll see what I can do for ya. Oh, and please don't forget to include the banjo Bolt!

Actually . . . How about a picture of the connector in question? One that would show the wire colors and the indexing of the connector?

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post #3 of 15 Old 03-15-2018, 04:23 PM
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Looks like the Y/B wire should be Fuel Pump (+) and the B/W wires are Grounds (-). One Ground for the Pump and the other for the Sending Unit. Sending Unit (+) is the R/B wire

The attached diagram is for a 2008 SV650. It shows a common B/W Ground Circuit for both the Fuel Pump and the Sending Unit. Perhaps they did a bit of consolidation between the 2007 and 2008 Model Years.

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post #4 of 15 Old 03-15-2018, 04:29 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks Blue. Sorry to disappoint, but the customer would not appreciate any missing brake parts.

I thought everyone knew that I don't do pics. Don't own a smart phone. Don't have proper stuff on this Windows operating system. And really don't want to learn how. I post more than enough already.

Fuel pump connector Wire colors & proper positions shown in my "illustration" in 1st post.

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2.0 ohms between Y/R & left hand BLK/Wht. High amp draw with zero pump activity.
Found fuse box & blow fuel pump 10 amp fuse.

I recon the guy needs to find enough money for a new fuel pump.

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post #6 of 15 Old 03-15-2018, 05:21 PM
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2.0 ohms between Y/R & left hand BLK/Wht. High amp draw with zero pump activity.
Found fuse box & blow fuel pump 10 amp fuse.

I recon the guy needs to find enough money for a new fuel pump.
Be careful . . . . Fuse #3 is a R/W wire. This R/W wire is the constant power feed to the Speedometer the ECM as well as the Fuel Pump Relay. The Fuel Pump itself is a fused circuit only by way of the Fuel Pump Relay and Fuse #3 on the R/W wire. Might want to disconnect the Fuel Pump Relay before replacing the fuse . . . . just to be sure everything lights up without blowing the fuse again. Also 2 Ohms for an electric pump at 0 RPM sounds kinda OK, maybe even a little on the high side. There may be other issues on this circuit. I'd kinda want to check before ordering something as pricey as a Fuel Pump is likely to be.
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I had siphoned the fuel out. Fuel tank was/is removed. Fuel pump will Not operate when wired directly to remote test battery.

LCD Speedometer and Low fuel light were inoperable, prior to replacing 10 amp fuse. Can't remember whether or not we had a neutral light earlier or not, do have now.

I think I would rather purchase a new oem KLR650 petcock assy, throttle slide/diaphragm assy, float valve, air cut off diaphragm, float bowl o-ring and maybe even an oem 'choke nut' for good measure, LOL. Than one of these danged F.I. fuel pumps.

MSRP $815.00 for fuel pump assy. One can purchase a replacement fuel filter for the FI pump for the 'Low Price' of $340.00. Sad thing is this fuel tank is very clean looking in from the filler cap. Just a little bit of rust in the LH seam.

Thanks for the help Blue.

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I had siphoned the fuel out. Fuel tank was/is removed. Fuel pump will Not operate when wired directly to remote test battery.

LCD Speedometer and Low fuel light were inoperable, prior to replacing 10 amp fuse. Can't remember whether or not we had a neutral light earlier or not, do have now.

I think I would rather purchase a new oem KLR650 petcock assy, throttle slide/diaphragm assy, float valve, air cut off diaphragm, float bowl o-ring and maybe even an oem 'choke nut' for good measure, LOL. Than one of these danged F.I. fuel pumps.

MSRP $815.00 for fuel pump assy. One can purchase a replacement fuel filter for the FI pump for the 'Low Price' of $340.00. Sad thing is this fuel tank is very clean looking in from the filler cap. Just a little bit of rust in the LH seam.

Thanks for the help Blue.
You can still send me the brake caliper . . . . LOL

Now I guess I know why SV650 parts are so common on eBay. Good grief, the bikes almost not worth the cost of just the Fuel Pump and Filter!

I guess they could say that the Fuel Pump lasts the life of the bike . . . . . . since the bike is financial toast if/when the Fuel Pump goes out!
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post #9 of 15 Old 03-15-2018, 07:25 PM Thread Starter
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The new fuel pump does come with the fuel filter installed, thank goodness. But geeze, just a filter is almost half the cost of the complete assembly! He's gonna' wish it was just a plugged fuel filter on a carb equipped bike.

We have had the engine started Twice, with No F.I. fuel pump! Ask me how.

No one has said whether or not they ever found their SV650 owners tool kit. I wonder if the DL650 tool kit is in the same place?
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post #10 of 15 Old 03-15-2018, 07:56 PM
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