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post #1 of 22 Old 10-11-2018, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
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LED use and replacement.

Here we go! This has be discussed a bit elsewhere, but I'd like a little more detail if it's out there.
LED replacement bulbs....
Problems: With fans; fan failure.
Brightness, mostly false information.
Design, do the ones you have mimic the original bulbs pattern or does it just glare?

The original bulb is a H7. Does the base design vary that much that an H11 or other will still work?

I'll take any input. The snow has flown so I have 9 months to consider this.
Stay safe and sane.
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There are only 2 manufactures that I have seen that make LED headlight bulbs that work like H7 bulbs. Electrical Connection and Pathfinder. They do not use fans that fail like you have stated.

There are way to many posts on other MC forums that I am on that the $35.00 ones that you get on E Bay do not work. They do not put the LED's in the same location as the filament on a H 7 bulb to work with the reflector.

How much do you ride a KLR at night to need LED Bulbs? I would just stick with stock H7 bulbs and be done with it. If you need more light, use the money and get some Aux lights that you can turn on when off road when you need the light.
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There are only 2 manufactures that I have seen that make LED headlight bulbs that work like H7 bulbs. Electrical Connection and Pathfinder. They do not use fans that fail like you have stated.

There are way to many posts on other MC forums that I am on that the $35.00 ones that you get on E Bay do not work. They do not put the LED's in the same location as the filament on a H 7 bulb to work with the reflector.

How much do you ride a KLR at night to need LED Bulbs? I would just stick with stock H7 bulbs and be done with it. If you need more light, use the money and get some Aux lights that you can turn on when off road when you need the light.
I'm with you most the time. My issue is that I drop the bike I break the add-ons. Wasted $s. If I can put something in the stock location that will correct for my aging vision I think I would be ahead.
I ride a lot at night. No likie the heat of the day. At night I have large animals to contend with.

Brother told me about a death by coyote on a Tigre last week. I have lots of those and everything bigger. Rather be able to see as good as possible.
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An older Pathfinder LED I picked up a few years back at a bike show in Vegas for my Goldwing has been pretty good.
Video I made in the dark alley behind the garage... https://youtu.be/4fDUQMNQ2AA
I'd consider Pathfinder first over most any other brand.

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Look at the size and shape of the LED element. Te closer in size and shape it is to the size and shape of the incandescent element it replaces, the better it will perform with the reflector designed for that incandescent element. The 1/4" hemispherical LED elements put out a large amount of light but, it goes left, right, up, everywhere.

I got tired of blinding on coming traffic and blinding myself with reflections from road signs and replaced the LEDs with high output incandescent H7 bulbs.
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I switched to an LED bulb because I wanted the amps for heated gear. I didn't see any advantage other than less amp draw. The light color changed but other than that, they were not brighter. If you want bright, add led's.

I put these on my Versys. Link below. Killer bright! Wired to high beams using a relay. They're 15 bucks a pair so I bought an extra set so if one fails, I have two more. Once the wife saw them on my bike, she had to have a set for hers.



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Here we go! This has be discussed a bit elsewhere, but I'd like a little more detail if it's out there.
LED replacement bulbs....
Problems: With fans; fan failure.
Brightness, mostly false information.
Design, do the ones you have mimic the original bulbs pattern or does it just glare?

The original bulb is a H7. Does the base design vary that much that an H11 or other will still work?

I'll take any input. The snow has flown so I have 9 months to consider this.
Stay safe and sane.
Squidly,
Have you read my often times postings about the vertical focus on all KLR650's?

They all come out of the factory crates with the headlight aimed WAY Too High! At least 1987-2016 they did.

The bright spot of the High Beam needs to have about a 2" drop when backed away from a wall, with rider & cargo on-board.
I've seen bikes which had about a 6" Rise of the light pattern at the 25 foot mark, with my light butt on them! Can you imagine the attitude with a 225-300 pound rider? Most dealerships never read and follow all of the A&P procedures necessary on new units, fresh out of the crates.

If the factory headlight is not properly focused, a replacement bulb won't help much either. Do you know where the vertical focus screw is? We ought to adjust them for each rider.

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Look at the size and shape of the LED element. Te closer in size and shape it is to the size and shape of the incandescent element it replaces, the better it will perform with the reflector designed for that incandescent element. The 1/4" hemispherical LED elements put out a large amount of light but, it goes left, right, up, everywhere.

I got tired of blinding on coming traffic and blinding myself with reflections from road signs and replaced the LEDs with high output incandescent H7 bulbs.
GM you've pegged one of my concerns. If the beam isn't right your just being a nuisance. All your doing is throwing out light in all directions and not seeing down the road any better.
Good call!
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Squidly,
Have you read my often times postings about the vertical focus on all KLR650's?

They all come out of the factory crates with the headlight aimed WAY Too High! At least 1987-2016 they did.

The bright spot of the High Beam needs to have about a 2" drop when backed away from a wall, with rider & cargo on-board.
I've seen bikes which had about a 6" Rise of the light pattern at the 25 foot mark, with my light butt on them! Can you imagine the attitude with a 225-300 pound rider? Most dealerships never read and follow all of the A&P procedures necessary on new units, fresh out of the crates.

If the factory headlight is not properly focused, a replacement bulb won't help much either. Do you know where the vertical focus screw is? We ought to adjust them for each rider.
I did read that.
I do know where the adjusters are. Every time I crash I have to re-adjust it seams. I got that down!!
Many parts are bendable. Just sayin.
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Once the wife saw them on my bike, she had to have a set for hers.
So much for the extra pair!
I'm looking into those. Cree is the ultimate LED maker. Everyone else puts those in their fixtures.

Thanks for the suggestion!!
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