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post #1 of 26 Old 05-23-2019, 01:40 PM Thread Starter
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Do KLRs need an OHV sticker?

Ok, so I'm sure this is different from state to state, but I am wondering if there are any Idaho riders who are familiar with the rules for dual sports on OHV trails. If you go on the Idaho Parks and Rec page, there are plenty of rules for how to sticker your ATV, dirt bike, etc, but I can't find anything regarding whether road-legal and registered bikes are allowed on those trails without further registration, sticker-ing, etc. I have ridden on some trails before without incident, but I also have gone at weird times when I hardly see anyone, much less someone who is going to stop me and ask what my problem is.

I'd assume Idaho's not the only state with less than helpful instructions for dual sport hopefuls, so if anyone else has any advice, I'd be grateful. Thanks!
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In Wyoming, an ORV sticker on an un-licensed unit is good for many BLM, Forest Service, State Trust Lands roads & even some County Roads have been enrolled.
The sticker also entitles the units to ride the Narrower Multiple Use Trails that have been Designated as ATV / Motorcycle routes. Vehicles over 50" NOT Allowed.
The sticker is Required for ALL vehicles using Cross Country Open Riding areas such as the Killpecker Sand Dunes in the Red Desert & some State Recreation areas.

So a Street licensed Dual-Sport, Dirt Bike or Narrow ATV will Still need to have a WY ORV sticker to ride the ORV narrow Trails & the cross country Sand Dunes, in WY.

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The Idaho statutes look very similar to statutes here in Florida. It’s actually very simple.

If a vehicle has a license plate, it is not an OHV.

An OHV is not an OHV unless it is explicitly registered and titled as an OHV.

Irrespective of its capabilities, a vehicle cannot be both and OHV and a FHV.

If a vehicle in not an OHV, it’s not allowed on state owned OHV Facilities.

OHV facilities in both states are properties set aside for OHVs. They’re not for pickup trucks or Harley baggers or jeeps or air planes or mud boggers or plated dual sport motorcycles. They’re for OHVs. If a vehicle has a license plate, then that vehicle, unlike OHVs, has access to 2.7 million miles of paved roads and 1.4 million miles of unpaved roads (some of which I can assure you really suck) in the United States. Therefore, the rules are both reasonable and fair.
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The Idaho statutes look very similar to statutes here in Florida. It’s actually very simple.

If a vehicle has a license plate, it is not an OHV.

An OHV is not an OHV unless it is explicitly registered and titled as an OHV.

Irrespective of its capabilities, a vehicle cannot be both and OHV and a FHV.

If a vehicle in not an OHV, it’s not allowed on state owned OHV Facilities.

OHV facilities in both states are properties set aside for OHVs. They’re not for pickup trucks or Harley baggers or jeeps or air planes or mud boggers or plated dual sport motorcycles. They’re for OHVs. If a vehicle has a license plate, then that vehicle, unlike OHVs, has access to 2.7 million miles of paved roads and 1.4 million miles of unpaved roads (some of which I can assure you really suck) in the United States. Therefore, the rules are both reasonable and fair.
No, that is a stupid regulation. A vehicle that is capable of both on-road (meets all DOT and licensing requirements) and off-road travel should be allowed to run both on and off road with proper licensing, registering or stickering. I made up stickering.
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No, that is a stupid regulation. A vehicle that is capable of both on-road (meets all DOT and licensing requirements) and off-road travel should be allowed to run both on and off road with proper licensing, registering or stickering. I made up stickering.
This logic opens up the 4.1 million miles of U.S. public roads to motocross bikes, ATVs, UTVs, mud boggers, swamp buggies, golf carts etc. They're all capable of both on-road and off-road travel. Hey works for me, man! My Arctic Cat Side by Side would be great transportation!
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This logic opens up the 4.1 million miles of U.S. public roads to motocross bikes, ATVs, UTVs, mud boggers, swamp buggies, golf carts etc. They're all capable of both on-road and off-road travel. Hey works for me, man! My Arctic Cat Side by Side would be great transportation!
If those vehicles meet the requirements to be street legal, then I agree they should be permitted to be licensed and used on the street. Does your side by side really meet all DOT requirements?
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In WY, about the only money spent on the 4 x 4, 2 track routes on U.S. Forest Service, BLM and State Trust lands are WY ORV funds & matching National Recreation Trails Program monies.
The fact that WY as of about 15 years ago started to actually encourage the common ATV's & the Newer, Wider, Faster UTV's to purchase the New MPV street license plates is truly handicapping the WY ORV program.
I'll suggest that 90% of what people travel are the wider Roads, not narrow trails. So a license plate is legal on all roads which the machines 'can readily do the speed limit'! City streets, County roads, BLM roads, Forest Service roads, State Trust roads, State Highways, but NOT on any Interstate Highways.

But most all of those monies stays on those asphalt highways & graded gravel roads.

There are so Many Fewer common ATV's & real Dirt Bikes being sold that used to enjoy the narrower trails that you better stick your bow saw in your napsack or chainsaw & pry bar on your ATV if you plan on riding the Gnarlier 4 x 4 roads and the Narrower Trails.

I try to encourage everyone of those modern ATV'ers & UTV'ers to purchase the $15 sticker & go play in the legal eastern Half of the Killpecker Sand Dunes. Definitely more fun than driving your UTV to Ace Hardware for some weed killer. (But many of them would have to purchase a trailer & a bigger truck to haul the UTV the first 30 miles up the mountain & the 100 total miles to the dunes.)

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If those vehicles meet the requirements to be street legal, then I agree they should be permitted to be licensed and used on the street. Does your side by side really meet all DOT requirements?
Hmmm. Do I interpret this question that you support the laws that keep OHVs off highways, but you want to change the laws that prevent FHVs from unfairly using OHV facilities? I thought you said a vehicle that is capable of both on-road and off-road should be allowed to run both on road and off road with proper licensing. For that to happen, some rules must change. If, in fact, you think the rules should solely change to support your opinion (allow FHVs in OHV areas), then my new response is you're just plain selfish. Go make your argument to the kids learning how to ride on their PW50s om the OHV areas that you'd like to get run over by jeeps...ya know, cuz they're "capable of running off road."

And no, my side-by-side does not meet DOT requirements, which is why I was making a point that such would be great.
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Heh.

In California, any vehicle operated off-highway is an OHV. It has to have either a highway license or a green or red sticker.

No vehicle made to be operated solely off-road can be registered for highway use. I can't remember when that changed; you used to be able to kit something like an XR or IT and get it street-legal. I always wished I'd managed to make an IT490 street legal. Dang, but that would be a hoot.
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In Oregon, motorcycles are permitted on OHV trails, licensed or not, as long as they display the permit, have a spark arrester, and meet noise limits. Being street legal doesn't preclude motorcycles from the OHV trails.
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