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post #1 of 32 Old 11-22-2009, 11:37 PM Thread Starter
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First, I'd just like to say you guys are assholes. I was just sorta looking around at different bikes when I stumbled upon the KLR650 and forums for the KLR650 and adventure touring sites for the KLR650 and user webpages for the KLR...anyway...long story short, what started out at just looking around to see what different bikes are out there, all of you people and your plethora of awesome stories have given me an unresistable urge to go out and buy this bike.

A dealership near me has an 07 with 3700 miles going for $3600 and they have an 09 with about 1500 hundred miles going for 4600. Are these fair prices? Does anyone have an opinion on if the newer style bike is worth the extra 1000 dollars? In all honesty, I will probably use the bike mostly on on pavement and freeway miles, but I would like to get to the point where I could do some light off roading and trails.

Are aftermarket parts for both bikes around the same price? Do they both need the doohickey modifcation? One of the accessories I will definitely be getting some day will be some panniers. I'm currently riding a ST1100, and I don't think I could go back to not having cargo space.

Thanks for any input, I will probably be back on tomorrow telling you about my purchase.
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post #2 of 32 Old 11-23-2009, 09:55 AM
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Pavement and Freeway... go with the new. I'm really not sure why you'd go from an ST1100 to a KLR650 and stay on the pavement. The ST1100 will dominate the KLR on pavement and especially freeways.
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I think he wants to dip a toe into a bit of off pavement? If so, I agree with Wanderer, you'll be happier with the new one. The old one is cool, but definitely feels more like a dirt bike. If you think you'll be on road a lot, you'll be better off with the new.

You should probably do the doo regardless. At least replace the spring if you get the new one, but an EM doo is a cheap investment. Worth getting you comfortable taking your brand new bike apart if nothing else.




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Smile klr price?

Just remember the economy is soft all over the country. Don't be afraid to walk in a offer about 5 to 6 hundred off what they are asking at the dealership. The prices appear in the ballpark in a good economy but right now nothing is moving. A neighbor down the street has his 09 with 1800 miles listed at $3800 with no takers and in our local http://www.cameraads.com/ there is an 08 with 5500 miles at $4000 or best offer and its been in there for over three weeks. If the dealer has had these bikes for any length of time he is probably willing to deal. Granted the dealer needs a profit to stay in business etc. but I'll bet he would take $500 over what he gave the previous owner on trade in. Also if you are willing to travel a little you can fly out and start your first adventure home.
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I second the thought, newer KLR has better protection from the elements on the road.
It weighs 450 lbs, 60 lbs more than the gen one (390 lbs), and all that difference is on the front wheel. But at least neither version makes much horsepressure.
Point being; gen2 not as capable in the dirt as the lighter gen1 bike, but still okay off road when compared to a ST1100, and much better wind protection (than the early KLR).
I have 15k mi on my '08 klr. Of that about 5k mi is on gavel roads where it does great.
For hwy use you will benefit from going to taller gearing to relax engine rpm at speed.

As for doohickeys, my bike (15kmi) has not received it's doo (which I ordered and received a few months ago and still sits on my desk). The older bikes must have this mod to keep from grenading. I have replaced many of them in gen1 bikes, and each of them needed it at 5-8k mi. (we found broken springs and or arms)

I will do the doo at some point for peace of mind, and I have a jet kit for it, (though it seems to run fine without it) One of these days. Round-to-its are back ordered.
Trying to make a KLR faster seems pointless. Airbox, filter and exhaust are all stock.
Mods to my bike are; good tires (about every 5kmi), taller gearing (15/38), tour-a-tech mount and garmin gpsV, heated grips, 3"shorter handlebars, taller windsheild from Parabellum and Hyper-lites LED tail/flashing brakelite.

Is it my favorite bike ever? maybe, hard to say, depends on the ride at hand.
I have owned dozens, and ridden hundreds of bikes, I like the versatility of this bike, and I am really enjoying it.
When I want to ride serious dirt; I take my KTM400ex/c, when I want to get froggy in the paved twisties I take my Ducati 900ss. I have a cool vintage BMW named COL. Klink, but I ride my KLR more than all the other bikes combined.
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post #6 of 32 Old 11-23-2009, 08:39 PM Thread Starter
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Looks like no KLR for me for the time being

The dealer wouldn't accept my trade-in due to the age. This doesn't bother me too much. They refused to negotiate the price at all. This bothered me a little. They suggested I sell the bike on Craigslist, which I am fine with. But then they refused to let me take the KLR for a test ride until I was ready to put money down. This bothered me a lot.

They ask for me to sell my current bike before even knowing if I would be happy with the KLR on the freeway. I am not willing to sell my motorcycle without knowing if the KLR is truly for me.

I guess I will need to play the waiting game until a more reputable dealer obtains a KLR near me.
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Steppenroth where do you live? Maybe there is someone from this thread that lives near you that can offer you a test ride. You two could switch bikes, go on a little lunch ride etc and let you get a feel of a KLR.

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Getting a dealership to let a total stranger that walks in the door to let them test drive a bike is a hard pill to swallow knowing that there are a lot of lying, thieving, broke ass bastards that walk this earth. I'm not saying you are one just that there are a lot of bad people on this planet. If i had a nickel for every time someone told me they know how to ride a motorcycle and they lied and I find out they couldn't ride a motorcycle 10 feet without dropping it. For example, I gave lessons to a girl who told me her second bike was a 2009 Hayabusa. She did own it. It was her second motorcycle and she's dropped it 3 times without even pulling it out of her parking complex of her high rise condo. Her first bike was a kawasaki 650 that she never rode because it wasn't pretty.

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I never roder the first generation KLR, but comparing my '09 to my previous DR650
it was love at first twist of the throttle !!! It's no racebike, but the newer KLR's have just enough more power than in the past to compensate for the added weight up front. In a drag race they would run side by side the whole way. Here in the real world though it has gobs of power. In the first coupla gears it yanks my shoulders out of socket and wheelies quite easily. Most of us (me included) do about ten bucks worth of a stage one upgrade and be done with it to wring out a few extra horseponies. I went with a larger front sprocket and the scooter's great on the highway up to 90 mph or better. It rocks off road as long as it's not asked to do motocross stuff. It has no problems shredding dirt and gravel roads and blasting through berms. Falls WAY short on whoopdedoos with the heavy front end. Good hillclimber thanks to the heavy front.Where it shines for my own riding style is just jammin' along a country road at 60, I see a turnoff wondering where it leads, flip back around and it's instant exploration time. Also I tend to not hang out at gas stations n' convience stores. I stop for a pee and a smoke on said dirt roads, take my time and kick back for a few minutes. Plus depending on the type of cigarrette break, I don't wanna be seen hanging out at 7-11. LOL It's a great bike overall and I've been riding 30 years. This is probably my favorite so far from HD's to a GoldWing, Nighthawk 700SC, DR650, XL600R, CB750 back in the day, etc. This one does it all and looks good doing it.

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post #10 of 32 Old 11-24-2009, 01:50 AM Thread Starter
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Getting a dealership to let a total stranger that walks in the door to let them test drive a bike is a hard pill to swallow knowing that there are a lot of lying, thieving, broke ass bastards that walk this earth. I'm not saying you are one just that there are a lot of bad people on this planet. If i had a nickel for every time someone told me they know how to ride a motorcycle and they lied and I find out they couldn't ride a motorcycle 10 feet without dropping it. For example, I gave lessons to a girl who told me her second bike was a 2009 Hayabusa. She did own it. It was her second motorcycle and she's dropped it 3 times without even pulling it out of her parking complex of her high rise condo. Her first bike was a kawasaki 650 that she never rode because it wasn't pretty.
This is true, however, both the dealership and I have insurance. If someone lays down a bike taking a test ride, they profit off it. But beyond that, I don't see how they can build any type of trust with a customer with that attitude. I buy from dealers because of a certain level of customer service that they are suppose to offer. When they don't trust a potential buyer with a test ride, I don't see how I can trust them not to screw me over on the transaction or on future maintenance. It's a catch 22 where one party needs to show faith. The difference is, I have dozens of dealers I can go to, they only have a few customers that will buy repeatedly from them and spread word of mouth advertisement.
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