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post #1 of 19 Old 02-03-2010, 01:42 AM Thread Starter
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Gen 1 to Gen 2 upgrades?

I was looking/drooling at a 2010(I think) KLR 650 today, and I really like the appearance of the whole front end, that being the front forks and leading gear (apparent improved beefyness). I'm dissapointed with the fancy cosmetic accoutraments (sp). Who'ld take that out in the woods anyway? Please, no offence to Gen 2 owners, I just saw the new 450 MX, and it too looks too pretty to get dirty and abuse as well.

Could one take, say, a front end (steering head forward) and just bolt it on to a good old one like, say my 2002 green thing? Or am I just Blinged out, and what I got is just fine? I can't stop improving, and putting cool stuff on the one I got, and maybe that's better in the long run.

Question: Recommend Uni air filter oil? I know Uni markets some, but I've seen two after market brands that I have no clue about. Crud, back in the day, we just lubed 'em up with motor oil, and that was just fine. Remember, I haven't been back to this scene since 1975. that was back when Castrol smelled funny.

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Next tasks, T mod, and more Loctite.

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I was looking/drooling at a 2010(I think) KLR 650 today, and I really like the appearance of the whole front end, that being the front forks and leading gear (apparent improved beefyness). I'm dissapointed with the fancy cosmetic accoutraments (sp). Who'ld take that out in the woods anyway? Please, no offence to Gen 2 owners, I just saw the new 450 MX, and it too looks too pretty to get dirty and abuse as well.

Could one take, say, a front end (steering head forward) and just bolt it on to a good old one like, say my 2002 green thing? Or am I just Blinged out, and what I got is just fine? I can't stop improving, and putting cool stuff on the one I got, and maybe that's better in the long run.

Question: Recommend Uni air filter oil? I know Uni markets some, but I've seen two after market brands that I have no clue about. Crud, back in the day, we just lubed 'em up with motor oil, and that was just fine. Remember, I haven't been back to this scene since 1975. that was back when Castrol smelled funny.

Far out Man...

Next tasks, T mod, and more Loctite.

Steve
Not sure about the frontend swap but the 41mm fork tubes came from the C model.

No Toil makes an Oil and Cleaner kit that is biodegradeable.

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What is the odds you would get the new front end welded exactly in line on all axis? Probably about the same as winning the lottery. Manufactures have fixtures that align things. You can upgrade your current suspension easier.
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What is the odds you would get the new front end welded exactly in line on all axis?
Whats to weld?
New steering stem, bearings etc in the old frame?

Does it fit?
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OK I'm an idiot. But that's why I ride a KLR 650.

Seriously though, I like the apparent ruggedness of the larger forks....better than 2002 forks? I doubt I could tell the difference.

As for the air filter oil, I went to the big superstore in Salem, and looked at the options for that, and was suprized at the cost. I figured at that cost, I might as well get it at the local shop in South Beach on the coast where I live. Golly, it was cheaper there. The S&M folks are rockin!

Now after surgery, I have to be careful about getting back into it. 80 miles on the pavement, and so far, so good. Hell, I still have to get used to this pig in the first place.

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OK I'm an idiot. But that's why I ride a KLR 650.

Seriously though, I like the apparent ruggedness of the larger forks....better than 2002 forks? I doubt I could tell the difference.

As for the air filter oil, I went to the big superstore in Salem, and looked at the options for that, and was suprized at the cost. I figured at that cost, I might as well get it at the local shop in South Beach on the coast where I live. Golly, it was cheaper there. The S&M folks are rockin!

Now after surgery, I have to be careful about getting back into it. 80 miles on the pavement, and so far, so good. Hell, I still have to get used to this pig in the first place.

Cheers,
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The stock 41mm forks feel better than the stock 38mm forks.

The plus for the 38mm forks is they can be drained easily and they come with the schrader valve if you are into that. The minus for the 38mm forks is their size an the lack of preload adjusters.

The plus for the 41mm fork is its size and the way the front axle mounts. The minus for the 41mm fork is lack of drain hole and preload adjusters.

MotoWizard http://www.motowizard.com makes a very nice Preload Adjuster at a reasonable price.

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What is the odds you would get the new front end welded exactly in line on all axis? Probably about the same as winning the lottery. Manufactures have fixtures that align things.
I better go out and buy a ticket...

Because I could weld that up. And I know a few others that could too. It's not the hubble space telescope..

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If you're going to go to the trouble to swap out the front end then go for some USD forks. http://klrworld.com/forums/index.php/topic,7943.0.html
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Ya could buy a Gen 2. It has all the Gen 2 upgrades already installed. <G>
The negative is that yer gaining about 40 lbs with the beefier and plastic-ier (plastic-ier?)
front end.

Both are great. It's only a matter of time before one of our fine members comes up with a hybrid of the two.
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Ya could buy a Gen 2. It has all the Gen 2 upgrades already installed. <G>
The negative is that yer gaining about 40 lbs with the beefier and plastic-ier (plastic-ier?)
front end.

Both are great. It's only a matter of time before one of our fine members comes up with a hybrid of the two.
Gen2: I was surprised that parts of the Gen2 engine has been re-cast but adds to why the engine has more problems.

Kawi apparently does not know how to keep and erection all night: don't screw with it!

The biggest screw up was the 'idler shaft' (for the idler gears) for the starter gearing. The hole in the outer case can be to deep, enough where the shaft possibly could not be in the the inner side. This is a huge error though Eagle Mike has a Fix, of course!

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