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post #1 of 12 Old 04-15-2010, 06:50 PM Thread Starter
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New KLR650 Owner: Question on shifting speed

Hi, just picked up an 09 klr650, love it. Confused, though, about the owner's manual recommended speed for shifting. Seems they suggest a good speed to shift from first to second is 12 mph, from second to third at about 19, third to fourth at about 24 and 4th to 5th at about 34. I tried it, but nearly stalled each time. Obviously, I shift when it feels right (keeping rpm below 3k), but just wondering if I'm misreading the recommended shifting speed. Thanks
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Assuming your bike is new, it's probably running very lean (factory setting). I have no experience w/the newer models, but there's a ton of info about jetting and carb stuff if you'll search.

Other than that, the bike will tell you when to shift.
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Assuming your bike is new, it's probably running very lean (factory setting). I have no experience w/the newer models, but there's a ton of info about jetting and carb stuff if you'll search.

Other than that, the bike will tell you when to shift.
Thanks, I'll look into that.
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Yeah, I agree with BI. You will know by the sound and feel when to shift. If not right away, with a little practice.




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Manual is usually set for maximum gas mileage and perfect conditions. Just toss those suggestions out and go by the seat of your pants. Every situation is different, you take off faster one minute, slower the next... you rip through 3rd then back off through 5. It's always changing so you have to adjust the shifting. I rarely look any more, but if I recall correctly it's usually around 3,000 to 4,000 rpm when riding normal and 2,500 to 3,000 when I'm putting around slower.
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Manual is usually set for maximum gas mileage and perfect conditions. Just toss those suggestions out and go by the seat of your pants. Every situation is different, you take off faster one minute, slower the next... you rip through 3rd then back off through 5. It's always changing so you have to adjust the shifting. I rarely look any more, but if I recall correctly it's usually around 3,000 to 4,000 rpm when riding normal and 2,500 to 3,000 when I'm putting around slower.
Those are about the right numbers by me, too. I don't do a lot of putting though.




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With a 650 I live between 3,500 and 5,000 with most of it being 4,000-4,500.

With a 685 I can pull from 2,500 and the engine loves 5,500-6,000 when in the twisties.

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My '09 (Blue) is just getting broken in. I'm around 560km right now. I know the recommendation is to stay below 4000RPM for the first 500mi/800km and below 6000 for the next 500mi/800km. What I find is that in most gears, except 1st, I tend to accelerate to around 3800-4000 then shift up. Compared to my CBF-1000 where I can shift a little lower in the gear, the KLR seems to be better off running a little higher RPMs in the gear range and doesn't respond as well if you have to give it some gas and you're at the bottom of the RPMs for that gear. I hit around 4000RPM in 5th at 55mph/90kph so that's my speed limit for now.

I'm planning on going to a 16T front sprocket since I understand it will drop about 400RPM at highway speeds. I tend to do more road and less off road. That may change depending on the summer months.

Any suggestions on anything I may be doing wrong with my break in? I'm also shifting to Rotella-T 15-40 with my next oil change. First oil/filter chg was at 300km. I was also told to not go to a synthetic until 3000mi/5000km to get the rings and engine parts properly settled in.
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They are pre-broken-in. Sounds opposite of what the manuals state, but
laser guided CNC machines makes virtually everything in spec and ready to spin hard.
The only thing that can't be done at the factory is sealing the rings. That ain't gonna
happen babying the engine. Don't beat it up by any means, although I did and still do,
just ride as normal going up and down through the gears often.

Change the oil often in the beginning and go have some fun.

One man's opinion based in fact but not a hard n' fast rule.

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post #10 of 12 Old 04-21-2010, 01:55 PM
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I'm with Mark on this.. I'm easy on a new engine for a couple hundred miles and I've always been one that will take a new engine and do a fair amount of downshifting to use the engine as a brake during that time..
I was told it helps get extra oil at the piston/ring area while the bike's not under acceleration pressure to aid seating rings.. I dunno.. Could be a crock of crap, too..

The only engine I have that uses oil is my KLR.. I bought it used with 1300 miles on it.. It's not excessive use, but I keep an eye on it. It uses as much now at 20K than it did when I first got it.

I love the Rotella 15w-40 and it's used in all my bikes...

And as Mark said, change it!! Oil's not cheap, but he is!!
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