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post #1 of 65 Old 06-09-2010, 03:09 PM Thread Starter
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Question Kenda 761 vs. Shinko 705 vs Shinko 244

I am trying to debate between the Kenda K761, Shinko 705, or the Shinko 244... for my 2008 KLR. I plan on doing a 70/30 on/off-road mix. The majority of off-road won't be difficult. I just wasn't sure if the 705 or K761's would handle goo enough off-road?

I like the street oriented tirer, but will they perform off-road in almost any condition (besides mud and deep/loose gravel)? Or would I be safer with the Shinko 244, keeping it under 70mph?
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I just got back from Moab and after nearly 2000 miles of slab and 500 miles of DS riding in Moab and I can tell you that the Shinko 705 is up to the task. I won't tell you it's the ultimate offroad tire because it's not but it certainly did a commendable job on the Moab turf. Take a look at where I went with them. http://klrworld.com/forums/index.php/topic,16859.0/
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I am trying to debate between the Kenda K761, Shinko 705, or the Shinko 244... for my 2008 KLR. I plan on doing a 70/30 on/off-road mix. The majority of off-road won't be difficult. I just wasn't sure if the 705 or K761's would handle goo enough off-road?

I like the street oriented tirer, but will they perform off-road in almost any condition (besides mud and deep/loose gravel)? Or would I be safer with the Shinko 244, keeping it under 70mph?

I've be through several sets of 761s and one back 705. Both are fine for dirt roads and moderate dry trials. I went back to the Kendas after trying the Shinkos because I get better mileage with them and they're cheaper!

I've run the 244s but went back to the 761s because for me i didn't gain off-road performance and they wore out faster. The 244's do feel better than Kenda 270s. The Kendas have a squirmy feel that some people never adjust to.

Don't worry about riding fast with more aggressive tires. Even something like Dunlop 606s are fine at speed, noisy but secure. Seriously unless you're scraping pegs you can ride them like a pure street tire, you'll chew through them fast on the street though.
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The Kendas have a squirmy feel that some people never adjust to.
By Kenda, I'm pretty sure Spec is referring to the 270's.. I'm one who hated that tire on the pavement!! But if someone were riding gravel all the time, it's a digger!! Pavement, it feels like the tire's flat, and the rear end shifts around in every corner.. I hated the tire so much, I didn't ride my KLR much last year because of the Kenda 270's that were on it..

Installed the 761's about a month ago and I'm actually enjoying my KLR again!!
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Just don't ride them on pavement with corners.
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Any advice if either of these are better for a mix of dessert-type loose dirt? Or of they will all be equally unstable?

Thanks again for everyone's feedback. It helps.
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Any advice if either of these are better for a mix of dessert-type loose dirt? Or of they will all be equally unstable?

Thanks again for everyone's feedback. It helps.
I think neither would be good for loose stuff.. If you're going to ride in that and want a DOT legal tire, kick around going to a Pirelli MT21 http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...Rear-Tire.aspx They're more expensive and won't last much more than 3000 miles, but they'll get you where you want to go, and they're not bad on the street, too.

I had a set on my old Honda XR650L and they did really well.
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FYI, I have found that the K270 Kenda is very, very air sensitive. A buddy has a K270 on a DR 650 right now. He finds that about 28 lbs in the rear tire does away with most of the squirrelly behavior on pavement. I played with it a bit Saturday, going from about 35 lbs in the tire, gradually dropping down to 25 lbs, and the air pressures did effect asphalt handling dramatically. Still not a desirable ride for me, it did help stabilize the bike, enough so that the tire didn't distract from the ride.

There are too many variables for anyone to recommend the "perfect tire". What worked Saturday on semi-moist trails and dry asphalt may not be worth a tinkers dam the next day on the same surfaces following a hard rain. A lot of trail success has to do with the rider being able to manipulate the bike with the tires it has on it. Meaning, you can't buy your way into a higher skill level. That requires hours in the seat. Any of the tires you mentioned will be more than adequate for entry level, "won't be difficult" trail riding a noob will encounter. The Shinko 244 front and rear will get you up and down "won't be difficult" trails, allow you to stick to any asphalt situation you will encounter. I have over 30,000 miles on the 244's, running at 75 MPH for considerable distances, with no issues. Keep in mind, knobby type tires are prone to chunking. They sometimes throw knobs, regardless of amount spent or manufacturer. Shinko will stand behind their tires 100% if you throw a knob. Their warranty is second to none. Regardless of wear, age or miles, if you have a Shinko tire fail for a manufacturing defect, they will replace the tire at no cost to you. Short of supplying you with a chase vehicle, it does not get much better than that. The best news is, I have never needed to make a warranty claim. As far as longevity, I am averaging 6500 miles out of a rear 244 tire, with some "meat" left. They are too cheap to run down to the cords. I did just remove a 244 front tire that has 14,000 miles on it. Never balanced. Thats a lot for a tire I spent less than 25 bucks for.



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