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post #1 of 33 Old 07-15-2010, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
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Can a city ban motorcycles & allow cars?

Can a city ban licensed motorcycles from riding trails in a "park like" area that they allow cars, trucks & jeeps that are "licensed vehicles" to drive on?

PS: Before you ask I don't want to say what city or where. I don't want to stir any pots.
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post #2 of 33 Old 07-15-2010, 11:42 PM
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Nope.. If they're allowing licensed cars, they have to allow licensed motorcycles. AMA has fought and won a bunch of these battles over the years..

If you have a location that's discriminating against motorcycles, contact the AMA and let them get it changed.. That's what I'm paying dues for..
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i saw then try on the beach saying bikes were too loud and dangerous due to sand on the roads ..not that the ricers were racing the strip . but in the end the bikes won .
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Can a city ban licensed motorcycles from riding trails in a "park like" area that they allow cars, trucks & jeeps that are "licensed vehicles" to drive on?

PS: Before you ask I don't want to say what city or where. I don't want to stir any pots.

Do the cars, trucks & jeeps drive on the trails? Have motorcycles on those trails caused problems, i.e. leaving the trail, loud exhausts, excessive speed, etc.? Certainly a city can impose restrictions inside city limits all they have to do is cite a reason. Don't like it? Go to the city council and state your case.

Unfortunately irresponsible riders are impacting all of us. Doesn't matter if you ride a quiet bike, stay on trails, etc. if others don't. They are the ones the non-riding public complains about.
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If it's public roadway, they can't discriminate against a certain type of vehicle, as long as that vehicle could legally be on that roadway..

They can't say no motorcycles, but a car is fine.. Well they can, but they can't say it legally.. Since your license plate is being used to pay for the roadway and your vehicle isn't going to damage the roadway any more than any other vehicle they're allowing, they can't legally discriminate.
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If it's public roadway, they can't discriminate against a certain type of vehicle, as long as that vehicle could legally be on that roadway..

They can't say no motorcycles, but a car is fine.. Well they can, but they can't say it legally.. Since your license plate is being used to pay for the roadway and your vehicle isn't going to damage the roadway any more than any other vehicle they're allowing, they can't legally discriminate.

Sounded to me like he was talking about a trail not a roadway. Might be able to make a case for access if the city maintains the trail but then again if the city can demonstrate that motorcycles are causing damage or creating a nuisance...

Plenty of cities are enacting noise ordinances specifically targeting motorcycles, probably falling under a nuisance provision. California just passed a law requiring stock exhausts on motorcycles starting with 2011 models (older bikes are exempt).

Loud bikes loose rights.
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Loud bikes lose rights.

Amen!! My bikes have a stock exhaust, except for my VFR, and the exhaust I just put on that was the quietest I could find for a decent price. The Yoshi it came with was really bothering me.. Couldn't talk without yelling over the exhaust when it was idling.. The Delkevic can't be much louder than stock..
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i find its true loud pipes save lives ! several times i have revved the bike to keep a car from cutting me off because they didnt know i was there .

i dont like bikes at 10g in 2nd gear down my street at 3 am but on the freeway it has saved my butt .
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Wouldn't the horn have worked? I got a loud ass horn on my bike.




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My training taught me to not allow myself to get in a situation like that in the first place. Brake/throttle/turn.. One of them will eliminate the issue.. I couldn't tell you the last time I use my horn for anything more than waking up the car in front of me at a stop light. (It doesn't get any greener!!)

And I've ridden in a ton of heavy traffic (90 miles to Chicago, 60 to Milwaukee, 60 to Madison, 10 to Rockford).. Typically, if I see something that looks wrong I either accelerate around it or slow and turn to go a different direction and go around.
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