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post #1 of 15 Old 12-13-2010, 02:38 PM Thread Starter
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Hi All,
I have a couple questions.
I remember reading something about the doohickey issue being fixed in 09. Regardless of this, should I still do the Eagle Mike version?

I'm going to do the Rhino coat thing on whatever I get so graphics aren't an issue, is there ANY other reason to choose an 09+ over an 08? I'm going Gen 2 only.

I'm saving up cash for this, any general ideas on how to approach the dealerships to get a good cash deal? I'd love to go local but the dealership here wanted $5200 (!!) in Oct. for the one 09 they had. I'll have $3500 to spend at the end of Jan, I'm thinking that should be sufficient for a good low mileage or new Gen2.

TIA for your responses, this forum is awesome for it's active, intelligent, and classy membership. I can only imagine the amazing good looks that come with such a gene pool of greatness.
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post #2 of 15 Old 12-13-2010, 03:23 PM
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We are a handsome lot.

The doo issue with the Gen2's is that the spring is often too loose. I put an EM doo in, but you could get away with just putting in a shorter spring. The EM part is nicer, but I doubt it would make a difference. Check the spring, though.

Some will say the 08's burn more oil than the 09's. I think it's a crapshoot. My 08 burns oil. I carry extra oil on long trips and try to look at topping it off as a good excuse to squat and stretch my legs.

I'm a bad buyer. But cash in hand and the willingness to walk go a long way.

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post #3 of 15 Old 12-13-2010, 03:47 PM
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Im on my 2nd 08... Blue one this time, and used. Good deals are out there if you look. I couldnt be happier.

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Since I want show off my pics, I am just posting bits here and there..I got my bike! It's an 08 and I guess time will tell if it's an oil burner. If it is, I'll probably fit in the 685 kit. From what I've read that cures it, right? I seem to recall dissenting opinions about that..
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post #5 of 15 Old 02-28-2011, 09:14 PM
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'08 and up doos are more robust than previous models; adequate spring tension may be an issue.

I know of no verified case of a latter-day doo grenading, myself.
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post #6 of 15 Old 03-01-2011, 01:52 PM
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Replace the doo and spring. It's cheap and easy insurance. Eagle Mike makes a good product and is very helpful answering questions. My 09 burns waay too much oil. Even though I am still under warranty, I'll 685 it instead of having the "stealer" touch it.
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Replace the doo and spring.
Just askin', sledhead: Against what is one insuring, replacing the '08-and-later doohickey?

Are you aware of any material failure of a latter-day OEM doohickey?

The spring may bear watchin' in the newer bikes, certainly. Not sure doohickey upgrade is particularly critical.

Full disclosure: Have EM doohickey and torsion spring in my '07.
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Just askin', sledhead: Against what is one insuring, replacing the '08-and-later doohickey?

Are you aware of any material failure of a latter-day OEM doohickey?

The spring may bear watchin' in the newer bikes, certainly. Not sure doohickey upgrade is particularly critical.

Full disclosure: Have EM doohickey and torsion spring in my '07.
Just curious why you chose the torsion spring over the other style. I'm wondering how many other riders opted for the torsion spring as well, anyone?

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Just curious why you chose the torsion spring over the other style. I'm wondering how many other riders opted for the torsion spring as well, anyone?
Although EM's spring has more than stood the test of time, he designed a torsion spring for the application. The spring would have to go a long ways before it was ever out of recoil, where the standard springs would be done sooner..

Al, when we did your bike, it wasn't an option. Since then, AA and I have only done one torsion spring for a college kid up to Madison, last summer.

The great thing is, you can always go to the torsion spring. Just required re-doing the Doo, and pulling off EM's Doo and drilling a small hole for the torsion spring to rest in..

I don't know why anyone would want to tear apart an older EM Doo to install one, but it's always possible..

They're a PITA to get the spring in place and inserted in the Doo, but a good pair of needlenose pliers and a little knuckle blood will do the job.
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Just curious why you chose the torsion spring over the other style. I'm wondering how many other riders opted for the torsion spring as well, anyone?
I would encourage anyone considering installing the torsion spring to study the issue before "doo"-ing so. There are noises out there of failures [breakage], and possible damage to the contentric shaft the doohickey is mounted on, due to stresses place upon the bearing that it was not designed to withstand. Should that concentric shaft / bearing experience ANY kind of failure, it would make a broken doohickey look like a hang nail.

Observing the Kawasaki factory issued Balancer Lever, it appears to be more robust than most of the aftermarket upgrades available to us. the spring seems to be the remaining issue. There does seem to be one coil spring of a length and reliability worthy of consideration....




Red letter inscription is a little too small for some of us who are candidates for AARP membership. It reads "This spring is of a different length and construction than other springs on the market. There have been no reports of failure with this spring yet."

The people who distribute this spring are available to discuss why they chose this spring, and why they believe it is an upgrade worthy of consideration.

http://www.topgunmotorcycles.com/


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