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post #1 of 9 Old 12-14-2010, 06:56 PM Thread Starter
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Hard to start after a fall?

Is this normal? Every time I have a get off, after picking my KLR back up, it's VERY, VERY hard to start. It cranks and cranks, just doesn't catch. Has never left me stranded yet, but always is worrisome...Does it flood when toppled?

Just wondering.

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post #2 of 9 Old 12-14-2010, 08:02 PM
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Hi clogan, welcome to the forum. One solution I found for this problem of hard starts after git-offs....

Is to quit crashing. No matter how much yer tempted to dump it...

Don't. It hurts and costs money. So we discourage this behavior. One of the moderators here might host some Tuesday night self help programs for people like you. KDA. KLR Droppers Anonymous. At times, I think we all get our priorities mixed up. You want to know how to start a dropped bike. Maybe learning how to keep it upright might be time better spent. Another one of our Moderators, Tom, [he's kinda like the professor on Gilligan's Island. Stick around, you'll figure out which one around here is Gilligan.] has deduced that the KLR 650 has a curb weight on it's wheels of about 400 pounds, and a trail weight on it's side of about 900 pounds. He seems to pursue the "keep it upright" method of dual sport riding, too.

If you insist on tipping over, I'd suggest allowing the bike to sit for a few minutes in the upright position to allow things to settle and drain into their proper cavities before attempting to start it.

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Is this normal? Every time I have a get off, after picking my KLR back up, it's VERY, VERY hard to start. It cranks and cranks, just doesn't catch. Has never left me stranded yet, but always is worrisome...Does it flood when toppled?

Just wondering.

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Is there a round black cannister right by the battery on your bike? It's there to trap gas tank overflows/vapors. It drains into the carb. When you tip the bike over it fills with gas and will tend to flood the carb when you restart.

Couple of things will help. Turn off the petcock so you aren't giving the carb even more gas and use some choke (to get the carb cleaned out faster). It will still take more cranks than normal but should start faster after a drop. You can also disconnect the bottom tube on the cannister and manually dump the gas.

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post #4 of 9 Old 12-14-2010, 08:53 PM
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I agree. Quit dropping it.

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post #5 of 9 Old 12-14-2010, 09:05 PM
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Clogan:
This will sound crazy but this is a trick you will keep up your sleeve for years to come.
After you dump and lift the bike, before you try and restart the bike, put the bike in 3rd gear. Then rock the bike forward and backward 4 times. This will bring the piston up to compression (sucking air threw the carb) when you rock back the piston will go down (pushing air threw the carb) then back up to compression on the back side…… This will mix the gas with air and the bike will start right up…..
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They do flood when you drop them.

Once you've got the bike upright and checked over, open the throttle all the way and hit the starter. It will be far more likely to start than if you leave the throttle closed. The closed throttle creates a large vacuum and just pulls more gas into the engine, not making the problem better.

SLO taught me that, right after he picked the thing up off of me....

The other alternative, as suggested, is to let it sit for a bit before trying to start it.

Letting it sit for a bit also helps you to regain your composure; not a bad thing in and of itself.

Now, Ginger, come with me and let's chat a bit... yes, dear, right this way....

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I agree. Quit dropping it.

BTW, can I be Ginger? It's uhhh...complicated. Would involve a lot of time checking myself for breast cancer. (apologies to Steve Martin)
Dude!!! You have spent entirely too much time in the San Fransisco. It's time for you to relocate before you become gender challenged.
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Full throttle works. (don't ask how I know)
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post #9 of 9 Old 12-16-2010, 02:51 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the tips!
I agree, not dumping it to start with is preferable. Guess I should ride in some more civilized places. First dump was coming back down after trying to jump a 12" diameter downed tree. I didn't make it over. Second was coming out of the mud after crossing a 10" deep puddle, 20' long and 8' wide. No way around it - I had to go thru. At least I didn't get wet. 3rd was while stopped, trying to turn around after coming to the end of the trail at the edge of a lake.

All in all, I think I'll risk a few dumps if I get to ride in areas like that. I'll eventually get to be a better rider, so that I don't fall when coming out of mud. And I'll learn not to try jumping 12" logs. And I'll learn how to adroitly do an about face when necessary.

The KLR is fun.

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