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post #1 of 15 Old 11-02-2018, 07:34 PM Thread Starter
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SOLD - Rekluse radiusx autoclutch - SOLD

Bought the damn thing before I realized that rekluse never made it compatible with pre-1996.5 clutch baskets. (like the ones that you need for a kickstarter.... )
They're not letting me do a return on it since it's not technically defective. Lessons learned
Anyway, full kit here. 9 friction plates, 8 steels, 1 expansion disk, and extra springs/pins for the exp disk. Easy installation, just swap the clutch pack and adjust your cable.

Looking for $300 (shipped anywhere in the US) but it's not doing me any good sitting in a box, so toss me an offer
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I am cornfused; a natural state.

Excluding the post mid-model-year-'11 clutch debacle the clutch plates, steels and fibers, have been the same since the '84 KLR600.

Why won't this clutch work in the pre '96 basket? Seems that all you would need to do is replicate the stack height of the original clutch pack and stick the sucker in.

I admit that I don't know shit from Shinola about Recluse clutches (imagine how the man from Shinola feels about that) but what am I missing? The kit seems to have nine fibers plus the expansion widget, so the fibers and steels have to be thin. It would seem that you'd only lose two fibers due to the shorter stack height on the early clutch basket. Seven should be plenty.

Damnit, I'd almost buy the thing just to find out. Devil, get thee behind me. And don't push.

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I am cornfused; a natural state.

Excluding the post mid-model-year-'11 clutch debacle the clutch plates, steels and fibers, have been the same since the '84 KLR600.

Why won't this clutch work in the pre '96 basket? Seems that all you would need to do is replicate the stack height of the original clutch pack and stick the sucker in.

I admit that I don't know shit from Shinola about Recluse clutches (imagine how the man from Shinola feels about that) but what am I missing? The kit seems to have nine fibers plus the expansion widget, so the fibers and steels have to be thin. It would seem that you'd only lose two fibers due to the shorter stack height on the early clutch basket. Seven should be plenty.

Damnit, I'd almost buy the thing just to find out. Devil, get thee behind me. And don't push.
I'd be lying if I said I didn't try for 2 weeks to get the damned thing to work. (would've been great to have bike that's practically impossible to stall)

original plate thickness (as measured by my $9 caliper, so don't quote me) are ~3.1mm (fibers) and ~2mm (steels)
rekluse kit is ~1.8mm (fibers) and ~0.95mm (steels) with 10.1mm on the neat expansion disk thingy (which is an excellent piece of design IMO)

I couldn't get the right stack height to make this go with the parts that I had on hand (2006 clutch pack) - it was always about a mm off - but I'm absolutely positive you could get it to work given the right parts and experimentation (in fact, I'm pretty sure you could get it working by just using a 2.3mm steel from a 2012+ bike). The rekluse folks I'm thinking just didn't feel like engineering a solution for a 20+yr old bike I guess.

The whole thing seemed like a fantastic idea to me (at the time...), because having the rekluse kit on the bike means you can't bump start it at all, which is a perfect use case for a kickstarter! But alas, 'twas not to be.

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I've come to believe that you're an able wrench and possessed of common sense, so I'll go with your analysis.

Now, I happen to have a 2.3mm steel (six of them, actually) that's yours if you want it and still have the desire to make it work.
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I've come to believe that you're an able wrench and possessed of common sense, so I'll go with your analysis.

Now, I happen to have a 2.3mm steel (six of them, actually) that's yours if you want it and still have the desire to make it work.
Augh, that's tempting. Like, really really tempting. I can't though - fresh out the military and the klr's my only set of wheels until I can save enough to get a concours or a little truck.

I learnt my lesson the first time - my gut says don't undertake vehicle projects with your only mode of transport. The day I get another bike I'll be free to tinker to my heart's content


Truth be told, the first time I tried this I must've had the clutch cover off and on maybe 10-11 times. I don't wanna do that again unless I can be doing it in a garage, not a parking lot :\

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Bump for price drop to $300
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I'd be lying if I said I didn't try for 2 weeks to get the damned thing to work. (would've been great to have bike that's practically impossible to stall)
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The whole thing seemed like a fantastic idea to me (at the time...), because having the rekluse kit on the bike means you can't bump start it at all, which is a perfect use case for a kickstarter! But alas, 'twas not to be.
I think you can bump start by just releasing the half inch or so of pretensioning on the clutch cable. But, I haven't needed to test it on mine.
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I went to an open house event over at Adventure Designs a while back and the rep from Rekluse was there with a KTM 1190. He was really touting the advantages of the clutch, doing the normal rep thing... then asked what I rode. He really jumped on the KLR package, and started making a deal price right away, then gave me a demo of the KTM. That thing seems pretty sweet if you ask me.

It sure does interest me at that price.

Pondering on riding to San Diego to save freight costs.

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I went to an open house event over at Adventure Designs a while back and the rep from Rekluse was there with a KTM 1190. He was really touting the advantages of the clutch, doing the normal rep thing... then asked what I rode. He really jumped on the KLR package, and started making a deal price right away, then gave me a demo of the KTM. That thing seems pretty sweet if you ask me.

It sure does interest me at that price.

Pondering on riding to San Diego to save freight costs.
I'd of asked the sales rep if one is supposed to manually squeeze the manual clutch lever when down-shifting with Rekluse clutches installed?

I've ridden 1 KLR650 with a Rekluse. Up-shifting is basically like clutchless up-shifting of a normally clutched bike, works better if properly timed. But there is some one-way sprag action.

Down-shifting with out using the manual clutch hand lever was as 'Harsh' as it would be on a manual clutch. So it seems to me that one should use the hand lever when Down-Shifting a Rekluse clutch.

The only real gain was no stalling at 5 to 0 mph, regardless of which gear it might have been left in.
I wasn't very impressed and the current owner hasn't really taken a 'shine' to it either.
I recon that we are just 'too old school'.
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I went to an open house event over at Adventure Designs a while back and the rep from Rekluse was there with a KTM 1190. He was really touting the advantages of the clutch, doing the normal rep thing... then asked what I rode. He really jumped on the KLR package, and started making a deal price right away, then gave me a demo of the KTM. That thing seems pretty sweet if you ask me.

It sure does interest me at that price.

Pondering on riding to San Diego to save freight costs.
Whole thing fits in a usps flat rate box, it's around $13 total shipping. But then again, that's no reason for cancelling a road trip
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