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post #1 of 20 Old 03-14-2011, 09:46 PM Thread Starter
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Pulled out in front of a Biker today!!!

I was driving my truck today & pulled out in front of a biker. The thing is that I didn't see him. Why??? Because there was a Semi behind him coming over the hill. The distance was more than enough to do so. However the biker blended in. The Semi looked like it had one head light. The biker was in all black. He literally disappeared into the Semi's Grill. He was not safe distance away. Man I felt terrible. It made me realize that I need to go Hi Viz on my gear.
Any thought?? Has this ever happened to ya'll?

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Nope. But I agree. My gear isn't HiViz. Should be. But my bike has more reflective tape than a construction zone.




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I bought one of those cheap bright yellow vests from WalMart ($9.00) and wear it over my jacket and have noticed that people can see me a lot better. I have not had any problems since wearing that vest. Everything else on my bike is black.

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I was driving my truck today & pulled out in front of a biker. The thing is that I didn't see him. Why??? Because there was a Semi behind him coming over the hill. The distance was more than enough to do so. However the biker blended in. The Semi looked like it had one head light. The biker was in all black. He literally disappeared into the Semi's Grill. He was not safe distance away. Man I felt terrible. It made me realize that I need to go Hi Viz on my gear.
Any thought?? Has this ever happened to ya'll?
Definitely know how you feel. I too pulled directly in front of a biker this winter and felt super bad. I also have one of those cheap flourescent vests that is for sure going on this year.
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Any thought?? Has this ever happened to ya'll?
Yes, thankfully just a couple times. Thats a good example of why we all need to ride defensively no matter what we do to be seen.

When I'm in the car, with my wife driving (Yes, I live my life on the edge...) I make her nuts with the "do you see that bike up there?", "there's one coming up on your right", "what, you didn't like the color of that red light?" comments.

Gray-haired riders don’t get that way from pure luck.

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post #6 of 20 Old 03-15-2011, 08:10 AM
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Human error, we all make mistakes. I started to change lanes in my motorhome and got a bepp-beep from the bike that was there.

One of my pet peeves is those riders who post a close call with a car and everyone, I mean everyone goes over the top bashing the car driver who in most cases didn't see the bike or made an honest mistake. I have posted pretty much what I'm saying here and got roasted. There are cases where the driver had a vendetta and I say out with the torches and pitchforks then.


Train, good on you for sharing this, we can learn something from every encounter, every accident, every close one.

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I've been riding for over 50 years and have had my share of close ones and even some off the bike encounters but those incidents are few. The miles of pleasure FAR outweigh any negative encounters.

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Happens to me occasionally even in my hi-viz.


I've cut a bike off a few times in my 28 years driving. It just reminds you to remain vigilant. It is an awful feeling.
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Happens to me occasionally even in my hi-viz.


I've cut a bike off a few times in my 28 years driving. It just reminds you to remain vigilant. It is an awful feeling.

White helmets have been shown to be the most visable, a Hi-Viz one would be a significant improvement over black also, just saying.


I look at bikes when I'm out in the car to see how noticeable they are. Here's my .02...


1. All black gear is the worst for visability and the most popular by far. Really black blends into everything even during the the day.

2. High beams on during the day make it harder to locate the bike. Yea I know it's legal but that law was enacted back when bikes had low output electrical systems. Today's headlights are extremely bright on high even during the day and make the bike disappear in the glare.

3. The color of the bike doesn't make a difference unless it's a big touring type like a Goldwing and then it's mostly from the back.

4. A Hi-Viz jacket is mostly obscured if there's a top box on the back. A good reason to have a white/Hi-Viz helmet.

5. A solid light color helmet is much more visable than one that has graphics.

6. Headlight modulators are annoying, flashing the high beam lends itself to the same over bright problem.

7. Lateral movement is key to break up an oncoming bike's profile. Even with all the Hi-Viz whatever a bike is still hard to locate in front of a car.

8. Bikes with yellow fog/marker lights lower than the headllight help identify it as a motorcycle, triangle of light effect.


My conclusions prioritized:

1. Wear a white (or Hi-Viz) helmet.
2. Wear a Hi-Viz jacket.
3. Yellow marker lights mounted lower and wider than the headlight(s).
3. Add sideways movement when you want a car to see you, weave side to side somewhat when approaching an encounter.
4. If you ride significanlty faster than traffic don't complain about close calls!

The most important one: don't expect anyone to see you anytime and ride accordingly!

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Spec can you elaborate on this?
7. Lateral movement is key to break up an oncoming bike's profile. Even with all the Hi-Viz whatever a bike is still hard to locate in front of a car.

How and when do you apply this?

I agree with you on Headlights not really making a difference. It actually seems to confuse the cages more.

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