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post #1 of 17 Old 01-01-2012, 03:17 AM Thread Starter
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Motorcycles, Can Run Red Lights Under New*Law

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post #2 of 17 Old 01-01-2012, 10:25 AM
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I wish they would pass that law everywhere... Either that of figure out a sensor system that works for motorcycles as well as it works for cars! I have one left turn on a light on my way home from work, as it's a road that only goes to my workplace there's only traffic coming out of it at shift end for the most part. I'll sit and sit and sit waiting for a car to come up behind me and trip it... Lol, I've tried all the tricks of different places in the lane and putting down my sidestand but nothing seems to work.

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Wisconsin has had a similar law since 2006. Still, it feels weird running a red even though it's legal. There are two lights on the way to work that I occasionally run.

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I've heard if you place a strong earth magnet under the frame of your bike that might work.
I have one light going to work that does that sometimes, when I'm the first one in the lane I'll get 4 or 5 cars behind me waiting.
I'll move forward so the car behind me can trigger it, if they will move up as well.
Because its a busy road going to work I just make sure a have a car in front of me.
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I wish they would pass that law everywhere... Either that of figure out a sensor system that works for motorcycles as well as it works for cars! I have one left turn on a light on my way home from work, as it's a road that only goes to my workplace there's only traffic coming out of it at shift end for the most part. I'll sit and sit and sit waiting for a car to come up behind me and trip it... Lol, I've tried all the tricks of different places in the lane and putting down my sidestand but nothing seems to work.

The sensitivity of the induction loops are adjustable. Complain to the road maintenance dept.

Don't know how it is in Canada but (I'm thinking) that most states have vehicle codes that address a non-functioning traffic light I know my state does. If your motorcycle, a legal vehicle doesn't trip the light the light is non-functioning. Usually the law will state something to the effect that you can proceed when safe to do so. Of course the burden of proof will be on you that you waited long enough to determine that the light was non-functioning and it was indeed safe to proceed.

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The sensitivity of the induction loops are adjustable. Complain to the road maintenance dept.

Don't know how it is in Canada but (I'm thinking) that most states have vehicle codes that address a non-functioning traffic light I know my state does. If your motorcycle, a legal vehicle doesn't trip the light the light is non-functioning. Usually the law will state something to the effect that you can proceed when safe to do so. Of course the burden of proof will be on you that you waited long enough to determine that the light was non-functioning and it was indeed safe to proceed.
I should mention it to the highway maintenance dept. It's not bad if I leave at the regular end of my shift when there is enough traffic to trip it for me, but if I'm 15 minutes late I have to wait forever before I get ticked off and just turn anyway... I always make sure there's no traffic at all when I do though, don't wanna get schmucked!

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Having been there and done that, sometimes I'll creep up behind a motorcycle waiting on a turn light or stop light to try to help them when I'm driving the Tacoma. Some of them understand what I'm trying to do and wave a thank-you, some of them think I'm infringing on them or crowding them and flip me off. I recognize when a car behind me is trying to do the same thing and I appreciate it.

There must be some kind of problem with changing the sensitivity of the sensors to detect motorcyclists and bicyclists. I mean, why change the laws in this way if it's possible to just set the sensors so they detect smaller vehicles? If not a bicycle, at least a motorcycle?

Being the conspiracy theorist I am, I would presume it's because maybe lightening the sensitivity of the sensors might make cars in the next lane trigger lights that would cause an accident?

Maybe a matter of the cost involved in changing/resetting the sensors versus paying legal bills that accrue from individual accidents where it's found the state/municipality is at fault for maintaining sensors that resulted in an accident is a good trade-off in the coffers?

Just seems strange to me that instead of somehow changing the sensors, they change state statutes to make it legal for a motorcyclist to continue through a red light if the presence of their motorcycle is not detected by the traffic light sensors and they've supposedly waited long enough to proceed when the situation is safe to do so.




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It looks like a lot of places are changing from under ground sensors to cameras that will detect the change in the view of the camera.
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post #9 of 17 Old 01-03-2012, 04:34 PM
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Many years ago I purchased a magnet (billed as a traffic light trigger) for my old KLR.
It mounted underneath the bike via zip ties.
It didnt do a darn thing that I could detect.
One of several routes home from work includes a signal that wont trigger from my current KLR or my Goldwing, so..I dismount, walk over to the pedestrian signal, push it and hop back on the bike. Either that or stay to the right of the turn lane and it does "see" the bike, allowing me to make an "improper" left turn. It is 2 AM when I am heading home so there is very little traffic to worry about.
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In Indiana we have to wait a full 60 seconds, then proceed safely if the sensor
hasn't tripped.

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