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post #1 of 19 Old 01-21-2009, 01:56 PM Thread Starter
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Give chase?

I was thinking about the way I ride now, versus the way I used to ride. And this occurred to me. In the past I have been cut off, almost hit, verbally abused, etc. In the past, I have chased down those cagers and given them a piece of my mind. It has only turned out well once. I posted this on another forum, but there was one time a woman ran a stop sign. Almost hit me. I didn't even follow her, but ended up behind her a few minutes later. So I pulled up to her window to explain that she could have hurt me. Two big dogs in the back. She starts screaming and then I hear, "Officer...Officer...help, this man is harassing me!" Crap. Turn around and there is a cop car blocking both of us. I explained, gave my liscence. I could see the computer in the cop car and maybe one or two lines of text came up. The cop told me to have a nice day. Right as I was pulling away, I see them run her card and the computer lit up like a GD slot machine. I went to get lunch a few minutes later and she was in cuffs and her dogs were waiting on animal control (I assume). Funny story. BUT. She could have thrown hot coffee in my face. She could have shot me. I could have gone to jail.

At the very best the cager will just say you were in the wrong and you end up feeling worse. Food for thought. I still get the urge, but now I just shake my head and ride on.




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The urge to slap them upside the head is sometimes hard to let go, LOL. But, you are right, better to just laff it off and be glad your still on two wheels and not waiting on an ambulance or worse. I myself also pulled up to a man in a truck the cut me off by mere inches. Before I could get a word out, he was apologizing all over himself for doing that. That's the only one I have had that went well too. Most cagers would just turn their head and drive away real fast from me when they realized they had screwed up.

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That reminds me. Guy almost hit me once. I trail him down a hill, calming down. He pulls over in front of three guys on bikes. Apologized like hell. Used to ride. Never saw me.




"In a car you're always in a compartment, and because you're used to it you don't realize that through that car window everything you see is just more TV." R. Pirsig

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Very valuable info for the NewGuys! ..You should post this as a must read for them(me)....most of the times new is another word for young, and you remember how short your patience was back then...thanks for the info!

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First rule of riding a MC... We're always at fault in the eyes of cagers because we shouldn't be riding something that can't be seen. They'll always blame us, it will never change.
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give chase?

Over the years, I have had some roadside discussions with car drivers that I felt needed etiquette lessons. It usually just gets everybody involved really pissed off and rarely solves anything. There are so many dumbasses driving on the roads these days, how am I going to teach them any manners?
One on one? so little time.
I ride like I am invisible, as if no one can see me.
I expect cars to pull into my path.
I don't ride in blind spots.
I don't presume I have the right of way.
I don't cross centerlines on blind turns.

Loud pipes won't save my life and helmets don't suck.
I gear up to crash, then do my best to avoid crashing.

And I still enjoy my rides. I try to not let people have the power to piss me off.
After all, I am riding and they are stuck in their cars, eating, putting on make-up, reading, texting, chatting, dialing, pretty much doing everything but paying attention to their driving. poor things. We can't really expect them to be watching out for us too.

Bottom line, WATCH OUT.

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I ride like I am invisible, as if no one can see me.
I expect cars to pull into my path.
I don't ride in blind spots.
I don't presume I have the right of way.
I don't cross centerlines on blind turns.

Loud pipes won't save my life and helmets don't suck.
I gear up to crash, then do my best to avoid crashing.
Bottom line, WATCH OUT.
You and I have the same set of rules.

My favorite (scariest) moment was the day I was riding home through some hills with blind turns and deep ups and downs. If you believe in God, then he told me "slow down, something is in the road ahead". So I backed it off from 65+ to a still fun 45mph. Sure enough as I came over a hill here sits a mid sized car blocking the whole street! Even at 45 it was every bit of breaking I had to stop. When I did get stopped all I could utter was "What the Fu*K are you doing???" Aparently the driver, a young female, could hear me and cries back," I was turning around to go back home cause the car isn't running right". Dumb bitch couldn't find a drive way??? When she started to leave my first thought was I'm gona follow this moron home and give Mom and Dad an account of what there idiot daughter just did. But after a few minuites I realized what I wanted was to beat someone into pieces and there was no chance of an intelligent conversation. So I broke off chase and went home to cool down.

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Hey Everybody,

I've gotta weigh in on this one, what I am submitting is true and not meant to be taken as self aggrandising in any way.

"A green light at an intersection means let off the throttle & look all four ways that includes your rear view".

I'll be 55 soon. I've been riding since I as 16. I have ridden from Newfoundland to about every other point you can name. I have a bad right hand that got that way from breaking it on skulls. My left is still pretty solid but I'm getting way too old for that skull crap.

I never chased anyone down to give them a piece of my mind. If they disrespected me enough I never even let them know what was coming I just laid back and waited for my opportunity then did what I felt needed to be done. I guess it was a sort of controlled rage.

Looking back I would not recommend this type behavior in today's world. Getting busted for assault or shot even though the other guy dam near killed you with a car? Not an argument I would like to make in front of a jury. I was lucky. I never got hit (by a car) and was 6'5" 228lbs and trained in fighting I got the bad guy and got away every time. Now days with cell phones and people every where I doubt that you can give someone a good ass whipping and leave without being identified. I would never try it again for several reasons not the least of which is my glass hand.

Keep your eyes open, avoid aggressive drivers and do your best not to let anyone get close enough to clip you. A green light at an intersection means let off the throttle & look all four ways that includes your rear view. Stay safe and do yourself a favor, don't give in to the rage that you feel when exposed to someone who desperately needs their ass kicked, you'll probably get in trouble. I feel funny saying that but it's true, this ain't the old days and we need our freedom more than we need our revenge.

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All good points. Ard, cancel that fight we had planned.

If I may add...to simplify a bit. I always stay out of blind spots, and I consider everything the other guys sees to be one big blind spot.




"In a car you're always in a compartment, and because you're used to it you don't realize that through that car window everything you see is just more TV." R. Pirsig

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I follow KS's rules too - good ways to avoid becoming a statistic.
Cager's brains DO NOT recognise as an object anything smaller than their own vehicle - we are SCENERY!! They fully expect to be able to occupy the same exact spot in the space/time continuum that WE do.
I once tried to chase down a road-twitch that actually PASSED me on the right, in my OWN lane! When he realised what I was doing, trying to close up to get his tag number, he rabbited. I chased him for awhile, til traffic got too intense and I had cooled down. Thinking what may have happened had I caught him - nah, not worth the hassle.

Now, if they get squirrely, I just back off. Let them be stupid to someone else. Maybe a P/U driving Bubba will put them in their place.
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