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post #1 of 23 Old 11-15-2010, 11:47 PM Thread Starter
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A bad day all around

So it's sunny and 83, I have a little work I have to do, so I figure I will take a ride on my newly painted bike. I go grab the work truck, and I hop on the freeway, and it's stopped. It takes me 45 minutes to travel 1 mile. I kick on the news radio, and a motorcycle fatality has happened. I figure that by the time I will pass it it will be cleared. Wrong... I finally pass the area, and there is the body in the road with the Yellow tarp, and the one gloved hand sticking out. I can't look any more, and turn my head, and say a little prayer for him, and his family, and move on to work with a heavy heart, and the reality that I don't want to ride today, It just doesn't feel right. I find out later after reading the newspaper online, that it was a 19 year old kid on a litre Ninja, that came upon stopped traffic, and never hit his brakes,and smashed into a Limo van, and died instantly. The irony of this is that the limo van that he hit was one of our memebers van. He had called me from England to let me know that his company van had been struck, and I had to let him know what truly happened. Yes... It was the "Enforcer's" company from the PPMC. This really sucks on all fronts. I did not ride today, the driver of van has taken the next few days off. I feel really bad for the families of both, but wonder...

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post #2 of 23 Old 11-16-2010, 12:07 AM
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I am sorry to hear that Mark.
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post #3 of 23 Old 11-16-2010, 02:34 PM
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Wow. That seriously sucks for everyone involved. Sorry to hear about it man. Sorry you had to see it. And for D.

Really sorry for the guy driving the van and the family of the kid.




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DanbKLR, and I talked about going to this kids memorial. It was today. We grabbed the bikes, and decided to attend. We don't know him, but this tragic incident has impacted us both in different ways. We both thought, would riding the bikes there, somehow be a negitive thing for the family? The thought was brief, and we pushed on. We arrived and we were the only bikes there. The service was standing-room only. It was a good service, and my heart was heavy again. We left the service only to find more bikes parked next to us, so that made me feel a little better, and we rode to a Pub, to talk, and hoist a pint to the victim. I don't know what to think at this point, I guess I am just airing it out. Kid's, and Litre bikes... It just does'nt make sense.

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That was good of you guys to do. I'm proud to know you both.

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post #6 of 23 Old 11-23-2010, 11:28 PM
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and we rode to a Pub, to talk, and hoist a pint to the victim. I don't know what to think at this point, I guess I am just airing it out. Kid's, and Litre bikes... It just does'nt make sense.

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I'm sure I'll be hounded for this but I don't care. The comment above is totally illogical to me. You're riding and stop to drink alcohol in memory of a kid who died on a bike? I hope the irony is obvious to you. A truly concerned individual NEVER drinks before or while riding, just like a pilot should never drink before flying. Riding a bike is a balance and coordination based activity, something alcohol doesn't enhance.

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I agree Buildit... interesting twist talking about riding to a pub and drinking.

No more silly then thinking prayers to a fake sky daddy will accomplish anything either.

No more silly then a remark about kids and litre bikes either. People and kids die on all bikes and all other types of vehicles. The bike being a sporty had nothing to do with it.

I don't let other peoples motorcycle accidents phase me one bit. Unless you plan to change the way you ride in some way, what's the point of analyzing it? We all strive to ride as safe as we want to. We choose to wear gear or not wear gear. Helmet, no helmet. Fast or slow. Just ride on people and enjoy the time we have, it's the only life we get!
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..I don't know what to think at this point, I guess I am just airing it out. Kid's, and Litre bikes... It just does'nt make sense.

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It was good of you guys to go to the memorial. The family didn't know you, nor why you were there, but you were there. There is spirit in this world, and solidarity and karma, and it all counts for something when the tally comes up.

I don't know what to say about liter bikes and young riders. I've poked around a bit - he was not an inexperienced rider and he did ride the Ninja often and in sporting fashion, but clearly was going too fast for the conditions at that moment. This is not a time to extend blame to any persons, as it's too late, but I would wish for better training opportunities for young riders. Something well beyond MSF. Something with a sobering effect.

If you have an opportunity, please extend condolences to the van driver, as that had to be a shattering experience for him.

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post #9 of 23 Old 11-24-2010, 03:51 PM
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It was good of you guys to go to the memorial. The family didn't know you, nor why you were there, but you were there. There is spirit in this world, and solidarity and karma, and it all counts for something when the tally comes up.

I don't know what to say about liter bikes and young riders. I've poked around a bit - he was not an inexperienced rider and he did ride the Ninja often and in sporting fashion, but clearly was going too fast for the conditions at that moment. This is not a time to extend blame to any persons, as it's too late, but I would wish for better training opportunities for young riders. Something well beyond MSF. Something with a sobering effect.

If you have an opportunity, please extend condolences to the van driver, as that had to be a shattering experience for him.

Tom
Well said. I've been watching information about some motorcycle reps who are leaning towards having the US adopt European standards for motorcycle licensing. From what I've read they have a tier system based on experience, as to what bikes you can be licensed to ride. I've read nothing that indicates weather it reduces fatalities or riding accidents. As one person replied, "owning a smaller gun doesn't mean you won't shoot yourself in the foot".

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Here is what I was talking about.

http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq/europe.html
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16-18 years:
moped or maximum 125cc (the Netherlands, allows only moped. Until a few years ago only insurance was required, now one also requires a moped license)
18-21 years:
maximum 25kW or 0.16kW/kg (A list of bikes that comply has been added at the end of this document)
21+:
unrestricted license (Germany's motorcycle manufacturers had a voluntary restriction to 100hp, but that has expired. In Germany, and perhaps under the new UE rules, the age for an unrestricted license is 25. Between 18 and 24 you're limited to 25kW for two years, or get approved training and you're unrestricted.)
21+ with only a car license:
maximum 125cc (the Netherlands does not allow the operation of any motorcycle (50cc+) without a motorcycle license)
In the UK, 16 year-olds can’t ride 125s. If you’re over 21 you can take your test on a bike bigger or more powerful than 33bhp and go straight onto bigger bikes.

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