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12-12-2016 10:26 AM
DPelletier The forum format is far superior for any real information exchange. As you know Paul, I frequent the KLR facebook group but I've found it so repetitious that it drives me crazy. .....currently I've resorted to cutting and pasting my previous responses which covers 90% of the questions I answer.....to type it all out every day feels an awful lot like that old movie "Groundhog Day"! .....endless repetition.

Also, here (if you stick around for awhile anyhow) you quickly get a sense of who's who and who knows what and then you can solicit information from the appropriate persons or at least know who to listen to on a particular topic; the FB group has a dozen or so knowledgeable people and about 10,000 people that know just enough to be dangerous!

Dave
12-10-2016 06:10 PM
justjeff I like oil. It keeps my engine spinning in circles....What were we talking about?
I don't mind that FB attracts people with short attention spans and repetitive questions. It keeps a lot of drivel off the more serious sites like this one. We do our projects and they remain searchable if we title them appropriately. Newbies need to be guided in things like the search functions and ediccate....etticate....manners from time to time but I am sure we all did/do. I like the family atmosphere on here, even to the extent of putting up with a couple of silly cousins!
JJ
12-10-2016 04:34 PM
650Stew
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Originally Posted by pdwestman View Post
After having spent about a month posting mostly on Facebook and less on this forum, I will express my dis-like for the Facebook format of discussion.

Back in my first months of posting here, JustJeff and a couple of others commented about "feeling they came in on the Middle of the discussion" in my primary thread. I explained that I felt any discussion about oil and its circuitous journey to lubricate our engines is almost always going to be "in the middle" for some. I hope I was able to help lead us all on a reasonably explained/enlightened journey of the KLR oiling system, yes it goes around in circles, regardless of where it starts.

On Facebook, it is really hard to navigate the conversation because no sooner do you work your way from the "middle" towards one end or the other and the "middle" explodes Again!
I do not find it easy to quote someone From the Middle and keep the topic flowing to a resolution at the tail-End! And I am probably as guilty as anyone.

I like this conventional forum format. How do we re-energize it?
Yeah, the Facebook format is best for quick chat type exchanges of info. Anything more than that and it gets buried/lost in the sea of posts. I noticed long ago that the Facebook KLR pages were getting a lot more traffic than the conventional forum, I think that's because most people prefer the instant replies/opinions that Facebook generates versus having to wait for a response on a conventional forum. It would be nice to see a revitalization of the conventional forums, but I just don't know if people have the attention span for it anymore. Our "instant" society in action .
12-10-2016 04:09 PM
pdwestman
Bump!

After having spent about a month posting mostly on Facebook and less on this forum, I will express my dis-like for the Facebook format of discussion.

Back in my first months of posting here, JustJeff and a couple of others commented about "feeling they came in on the Middle of the discussion" in my primary thread. I explained that I felt any discussion about oil and its circuitous journey to lubricate our engines is almost always going to be "in the middle" for some. I hope I was able to help lead us all on a reasonably explained/enlightened journey of the KLR oiling system, yes it goes around in circles, regardless of where it starts.

On Facebook, it is really hard to navigate the conversation because no sooner do you work your way from the "middle" towards one end or the other and the "middle" explodes Again!
I do not find it easy to quote someone From the Middle and keep the topic flowing to a resolution at the tail-End! And I am probably as guilty as anyone.

I like this conventional forum format. How do we re-energize it?
04-04-2015 11:13 PM
Tom Schmitz
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Originally Posted by notsluggo View Post
...I'd love to see threads titled and specific to each type and/or brand of farkle. ...
notsluggo -

That's pretty hard to do, given the dynamic of forums. Threads start out as one topic and grow, branch, and drift. We can wind up with multiple topics in one thread.

Add to that the fact that there is a Gen 1 and a Gen 2 that need to be covered separately, yet there are common things to both generations.

What we started doing was collecting the best of the best into a thread called "Common Mods and Issues". It was the best we could come up with.

Tom
04-04-2015 10:51 PM
notsluggo I much prefer the forum format, but Facebook serves as a quick and easier browse.
Yes, it can easily get repetitive and snarky, but it's Facebook.
On the forums, I'd love to see threads titled and specific to each type and/or brand of farkle. Like Crash bars - Givi or Handlebar risers - Gen 2. These would hopefully make it much easier for people to contribute, learn, and provide feedback in a more effectively structured manner.
But then, I'm an IT engineer by trade and live for standardization...
04-04-2015 10:10 PM
650Stew
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Originally Posted by campfire View Post
True statement, but..........
KLR= Dual sport/Adventure bike. Which, in my mind should equal riding either long distances or adventures with some off road or gravel/forest roads of sorts. And that might include getting stuck somewhere or breaking down and be required to do a "field fix".
And while some may not even buy a KLR for those rides, it's still a motorcycle. You should at least have enough sense to know if the tire if flat, or what is rubbing/grinding away the rubber to the casing of the tire.

Does society lack the common sense to look up inside a fender and see if there's a shiny spot on what the tire is rubbing on?
(I know, it's not that common anymore)
But if you put on a tire, and not check to see if the wheel track is aligned?

Or have we come to the point of posting pictures, and expecting someone else to give us the name of an attorney so we can sue for a new tire complete with bike.

I should end this rant, and I will admit that I was amused for a couple of seconds at the post... until I wanted to hold a short conversation with said rider to gauge his abilities.

OK,OK,OK,OK........ I'll ease up.

(edit ---- Man I'm sarcastic tonight)
Lol, you piqued my interest, I had to go check that one out... Yup, you would think one would notice that rubbing after the first short test ride after installing the tire and space the muffler out a bit... I don't mind the Facebook group but I had to stop it updating on my page a few months ago as my entire page would be full of posts like that. Or worse, guys arguing politics or something .
04-04-2015 09:44 PM
campfire
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Originally Posted by pdwestman View Post
I think we have all learned to be 'kinder and gentler' and 'more light hearted' in our years on these forums. And I've only been here, sort of for 6 years.
True statement, but..........
KLR= Dual sport/Adventure bike. Which, in my mind should equal riding either long distances or adventures with some off road or gravel/forest roads of sorts. And that might include getting stuck somewhere or breaking down and be required to do a "field fix".
And while some may not even buy a KLR for those rides, it's still a motorcycle. You should at least have enough sense to know if the tire if flat, or what is rubbing/grinding away the rubber to the casing of the tire.

Does society lack the common sense to look up inside a fender and see if there's a shiny spot on what the tire is rubbing on?
(I know, it's not that common anymore)
But if you put on a tire, and not check to see if the wheel track is aligned?

Or have we come to the point of posting pictures, and expecting someone else to give us the name of an attorney so we can sue for a new tire complete with bike.

I should end this rant, and I will admit that I was amused for a couple of seconds at the post... until I wanted to hold a short conversation with said rider to gauge his abilities.

OK,OK,OK,OK........ I'll ease up.

(edit ---- Man I'm sarcastic tonight)
02-21-2015 07:19 AM
Damocles The distinction between "medium" and "media" appears relatively insignificant, Normk; merely the singular and the plural of the same noun. However, distinguishing "message" and "massage" remains important, IMHO.

If you disagree, experiment by exchanging those words, 'message" and "massage," next time you visit Stockholm or Bangkok!

I've noticed the effect of McLuhan's premise over the years (since the late 1960's when he published the book), in our population: One example, people sensitized to VIDEO, not to the written (and largely spoken) word. If you doubt this, look at the fall of print journalism, the decline of newspapers and magazines.

To the perceptively-massaged recent generations, getting through only the sports section of USA Today will be like reading War and Peace at a single sitting . . .

[/rant]
02-20-2015 08:11 PM
pdwestman I think we have all learned to be 'kinder and gentler' and 'more light hearted' in our years on these forums. And I've only been here, sort of for 6 years.
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