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04-20-2013 12:38 AM
planalp Interesting article:

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/oped...ycle-industry/



04-19-2013 10:59 PM
geolemon
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Originally Posted by willys View Post
As for the costs to get moulds made for each piece I would bet you would be hard pressed to get a mould made for under $5000......well maybe much cheaper if you went off shore as they all seem to.....augh! ....
It's expensive. When I was doing audio engineering work, on my heavy duty driver designs we are limited to cast baskets that were available in the public domain. When we looked into tooling up our own, it was roughly $10k per size... a 10", 12", 15" driver would have cost $30k before we even poured one. Tooling overseas would be slightly less expensive, but much higher contracted minimum volumes, and no protection from those Chinese contact manufacturers from simply cranking out more, and adding your design to their general availability catalog for others to use.

I believe plastic injection molding uses the same type molds.

And I bet that's why even a company like Ascerbis doesn't jump on this. I'd bet they'd be $10k in tooling up for two sides and unknown sales volumes after they did... especially if part of that sales volume targeted undercutting factory panels. That puts a ceiling on profit margins, competing with someone who will always manufacture higher volumes than you.

Just like cars on the road, the minority really want to customize theirs. After all, dual purpose bikes aren't exactly a pair of custom color plastics away from being a rolling sex machine.


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04-19-2013 08:21 PM
Lockjaw
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Originally Posted by Snakeboy66 View Post
Hello KLaaRon,

Welcome to the site. You will find all kinds in here as well as a wealth of info.

I say Occupy Acerbis and force them to give us what we want by sleeping in their front yard. I am kidding of course.

You make a good point. There must be a market for these bike plastics. I know that if (when) I screw up one of mine i will be in the market for a new one PDQ.

Snakeboy66
I was with you until "I am kidding of course."

So, I broke my right shroud, bought a blue one of ebay and bedlinered both. Maybe that's the problem. Plenty of used pieces for sale. KLR riders aren't real concerned with riding pretty bikes...

Hell, Tom just gave away a ton of plastic. Maybe we just recycle? Plus, the right color for your model would run you way more than cobbled goods?



04-19-2013 08:12 PM
Snakeboy66 Hello KLaaRon,

Welcome to the site. You will find all kinds in here as well as a wealth of info.

I say Occupy Acerbis and force them to give us what we want by sleeping in their front yard. I am kidding of course.

You make a good point. There must be a market for these bike plastics. I know that if (when) I screw up one of mine i will be in the market for a new one PDQ.

Snakeboy66
04-19-2013 07:22 PM
Scrapper i agree, there should be SOMETHING after 30+ yrs of making this bike.
04-19-2013 07:02 PM
nearace I can only assume there is no market for that product,as we all know if there is money to be made manafactures will make it.
04-19-2013 06:44 PM
Damocles Recently, on another forum which shall remain nameless (http://www.advrider.com), an inmate performed a sort of "market survey" regarding aftermarket KLR plastic.

He explored the possibility of manufacturing this merchandise, I presume, for fun and profit.

Haven't heard from him in awhile; a SEARCH, maybe through the KLR Only or the KLR Modifications thread, might turn up his discussion.
04-19-2013 04:33 PM
Lockjaw
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Originally Posted by KLaaRon View Post
"Acerbis did make a fork/rotor cover set for the KLR once upon a time. don't know why they quit. Demand drives the market."

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I guess they did offer that one product, but how can they determine market demand for radiator shrouds and side covers when they've never even offered them? I get that KLR plastic may be a "niche" market, but niche markets can be very lucrative especially when the only competition is the high priced OEM.
I was joking around, but I do agree...it is odd.



04-19-2013 03:59 PM
KLaaRon "Acerbis did make a fork/rotor cover set for the KLR once upon a time. don't know why they quit. Demand drives the market."

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I guess they did offer that one product, but how can they determine market demand for radiator shrouds and side covers when they've never even offered them? I get that KLR plastic may be a "niche" market, but niche markets can be very lucrative especially when the only competition is the high priced OEM.
04-19-2013 01:44 PM
Lockjaw I'll throw my hat in. I think it is also a question of desire. Lots of people are happy with duct tape, zip ties, glue, and bedliner.

I wouldn't know anyone like that though...



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