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09-05-2016 01:37 PM
BigUglyGreenKLR
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Originally Posted by Tom Schmitz View Post
You are too clever by half.

The post predates the current civil war by several years.

The original post is nine years old.

By the by, Jeremy has done well for himself, publishing a couple of books and travelling extensively.


Tom
I didn't notice how old the thread was. Someone, sixfitty, bumped it to the top.

Did the OP ever get his air filter oil?

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09-04-2016 02:44 PM
pdwestman
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Originally Posted by Back2Kawi View Post
So is Maxima not the stuff to use on the OEM filter? I ask because that's what I serviced mine with. Should I clean it off and use oil? Or is it OK to continue with the Maxima sticky stuff....And yeah its sticky.
Back2Kawi,
Maxima FFT (Foam Filter Treatment) is one of the Many air filters oils Specifically intended for use on Foam Air filters.
No need for you to re-service your OEM foam air filter!
09-04-2016 02:55 AM
GoMotor
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Originally Posted by pdwestman View Post
...........................On KLR650 OEM foam air filter, 10W40 engine oil Will Work! Straight Grade 40, 50, or even 90 does Not migrate around the air box as much.......................
Agreed. Engine oil is what Kawasaki recommends in the owners manual and it is what I have used for 100k miles in my KLR. At cleaning time the filter is always dirty on the outside and clean on the inside. No dirt is getting through. In a tight pinch you could even rob a couple of ounces from the crankcase for the filter.
09-04-2016 02:39 AM
Tom Schmitz
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Originally Posted by BigUglyGreenKLR View Post
...Maybe some AK47 gun oil would work. I am sure there is a lot in Syria at this time.
You are too clever by half.

The post predates the current civil war by several years.

The original post is nine years old.

By the by, Jeremy has done well for himself, publishing a couple of books and travelling extensively.
http://www.oscillatorpress.com/

Tom
09-03-2016 05:38 PM
Back2Kawi
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Originally Posted by pdwestman View Post
sixfitty and All Other readers,

K & N air filter oil is for Surgical Cotton GAUZE type air filters ONLY!

DO NOT USE K & N Air Filter oil on a Foam air filter!! It is TOO thin to stay in the FOAM! And not very 'sticky'. It will allow the finer, talcum powder dust to pass thru and into your engine.

On KLR650 OEM foam air filter, 10W40 engine oil Will Work! Straight Grade 40, 50, or even 90 does Not migrate around the air box as much.
Coarser Foam Air filters, like UNI-Filter work better with the 'Tackier/Stickier' oils like UNI, Bel-Ray, PJ-1, Maxima, etc.
So is Maxima not the stuff to use on the OEM filter? I ask because that's what I serviced mine with. Should I clean it off and use oil? Or is it OK to continue with the Maxima sticky stuff....And yeah its sticky.
09-02-2016 11:31 PM
BigUglyGreenKLR What about grease mixed with motor oil?

Maybe some AK47 gun oil would work. I am sure there is a lot in Syria at this time.
09-02-2016 09:09 PM
pdwestman
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Originally Posted by sixfitty View Post
first of all K&N states on their industrial spec sheet that the air filter oil in the Aerosol can must weight at least 7.5 cSt (centistokes) at 100 C. A blend of 80W and 85W SAE oil matches that. I've been using 85W straight oil for several years with no issues. I also use Krud Kutter (same metasilicate cleaner) as the expensive K&N air filter cleaner. Just make sure to rinse any degreaser even K&N well before adding oil - otherwise the oil will be saponified and converted to fatty acids then will gunk up your engine.

SAE Motor Oil Grade cSt @100C
0W -3.8
5W 3.8 - 4.1
10W 4.1 - 5.6
15W -5.6
##W-20 9.3 - 12.5
##W-40 12.5 - 16.3
##W-50 16.3 - 21.9
##W-60 21.9 - 26.1

SAE Gear Oil Grade cSt @100C
70W 4.1+
75W 4.1+
80W 7+
85W 11+
90W 13.5 - 24.5
140W 24.0 - 41
250W 41+
sixfitty and All Other readers,

K & N air filter oil is for Surgical Cotton GAUZE type air filters ONLY!

DO NOT USE K & N Air Filter oil on a Foam air filter!! It is TOO thin to stay in the FOAM! And not very 'sticky'. It will allow the finer, talcum powder dust to pass thru and into your engine.

On KLR650 OEM foam air filter, 10W40 engine oil Will Work! Straight Grade 40, 50, or even 90 does Not migrate around the air box as much.
Coarser Foam Air filters, like UNI-Filter work better with the 'Tackier/Stickier' oils like UNI, Bel-Ray, PJ-1, Maxima, etc.
09-02-2016 07:08 PM
sixfitty
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Originally Posted by BigUglyGreenKLR View Post
Can you get chain saw oil? That stuff is tacky.

Can you mix chain lube with motor oil and make a tacky filter oil?



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Chain lube is 14 cSt or double that of K&N. They add tackifiers and solvent to then convert the oil to a more semi-solid ocnsistency after application. K&N oil left on a surface stays liquid.
09-02-2016 06:21 PM
BigUglyGreenKLR Can you get chain saw oil? That stuff is tacky.

Can you mix chain lube with motor oil and make a tacky filter oil?



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09-02-2016 05:37 PM
sixfitty first of all K&N states on their industrial spec sheet that the air filter oil in the Aerosol can must weight at least 7.5 cSt (centistokes) at 100 C. A blend of 80W and 85W SAE oil matches that. I've been using 85W straight oil for several years with no issues. I also use Krud Kutter (same metasilicate cleaner) as the expensive K&N air filter cleaner. Just make sure to rinse any degreaser even K&N well before adding oil - otherwise the oil will be saponified and converted to fatty acids then will gunk up your engine.

SAE Motor Oil Grade cSt @100C
0W -3.8
5W 3.8 - 4.1
10W 4.1 - 5.6
15W -5.6
##W-20 9.3 - 12.5
##W-40 12.5 - 16.3
##W-50 16.3 - 21.9
##W-60 21.9 - 26.1

SAE Gear Oil Grade cSt @100C
70W 4.1+
75W 4.1+
80W 7+
85W 11+
90W 13.5 - 24.5
140W 24.0 - 41
250W 41+
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