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07-21-2008 09:00 AM
GaThumper Had a GREAT time and really enjoyed seeing some old friends and making some new ones. It always warms my heart what a wonderful group we have.

Anyone who couldn't make it, we missed you, and hope to see you somewhere soon!

Had a slow start, lot's of good roads, and a late lunch at Rib Country in Hayesville.

About five of us cut and ran after Tusquittee Rd. I can't wait to hear the rest of the story!

Time for a hot shower and some dinner. We left plenty of roads un-touched and I can't wait to get back up there and do some more exploring.

Thanks to Bob and Chuck for the guidance and to the entire group for a great time!

Here's the pics I got...

Meeting at Bateman's Store

Overlook on FS711

Rare Barbie-Riding-Monkey spotted in a tree on FS711

Talking it over.

Nantahala River

John said "It looks WET"

Bob and Ben paving the way!

Chuck's Up!


Needs the "T" mod!

Chuck playing in the water!

One more time.

Bob and Ben ride Again!

Chuck Returns


Old Hwy 64


Bob and Ben ready to eat!

They look hungry?

Look at 'em eat!
07-20-2008 10:44 PM

Part III was the trip back to TN..........

Thanks for the MEMORIES!!!!!!!!!!!!
07-20-2008 10:41 PM
cherokee_chuck I had a great time hooking up with some DS riders on this trip. The riding, swimming (almost), and camaraderie was cool and I look forward to the next one. Keener did an excellent job at telling the story, I thought I would just add some pics............

For me, I have the day broken into 3 parts:

Part I lasting from 9:30 to 3:30 and involved 12 bikes (and 1 passenger grandson...)

Part II of the trip involved 6 of us checking out the Webb Cr. area................

07-20-2008 10:36 PM
cherokee_chuck MESSAGE FROM KEENER....

I still haven't replaced my lost camera, so I have no pictures to share. Sorry, folks.

I got up pretty early Friday morning and fed the dog, played with him some, and then pulled the KLR from the garage.
I did a quick check of bolts and screws, topped off the front brakes and bled them a little. (still need to do the rear)

Around 7:00am I was on the road to the Nantahala Outdoor Center.
I had to ride kind of slow due to thick fog and very limited visibility. Traffic was light, though and I made pretty good time given the circumstances. I stopped at Cowee Convenience Store, topped off the tank, cleaned my face shield, and rode on to Needmore Road.

Needmore Road is a flat, fairly straight section of gravel road that runs right next to The Little Tennessee River.
The river, to me, is just beautiful and with the added "mystery" of the fog it was quite a sight. Fog was sitting just above the water in sections and it just looked..eerie.

Soon I arrived at the NOC. I was a little later than anticipated, but there were no bikes parked there waiting on me.
I went inside, got a table, and had my breakfast alone. If you've never been there, The NOC has a great menu and sits on the Nantahala River. As I ate my food, I watched some ducks feeding in the river and saw several decent trout break the surface. Ah...a fly rod would have been great right then!!

I left the NOC and rode to Wayah Road. Wayah, a winding, twisty section of good quality asphalt, climbs up through the Nantahala Gorge. The river here is narrow and in some sections produces stair step waterfalls. These are sections of rock that channel the water into a series of cascades and deep pools. Very pretty in the early morning sunlight.

Well, the plan was to meet at Bateman's around 9:00am. I was there at 8:40. <sigh> At least I wasn't late.
I spent my time waiting by looking at the flowers and talking with a couple of older guys about weather, fishing conditions on the lake, and listened to them reminisce. You know, sometimes being early has some unexpected rewards. Listening to these guys was a jump back to the good ol' days. Just some ordinary General Store banter that is rare in our world of strip malls, Wal-Marts, and fast food joints.

After a little while, I heard a couple of thumpers coming up the road.
A yellow DR and a KTM pulled in. (I spent most of the day riding and talking with these two and I have already forgotten their names! That really sucks.)
We talked a bit, compared bikes and waited. After a little bit, two KLRs pulled in. A green '06 I think, and a great looking black '07 (?)
In due time, more bikes, more riders, and we finally left the station.
A quick stop at RBrider's place to call Scott (missed you, bro!) and we were off and riding!
As a group we rode down Wayah to River Road. This is a narrow gravel road with some rocks and a few potholes. It's not a bad road at all, but not a typical graded gravel road, either. Long and straight in sections, it is a fun one to blast down. You just have to be aware that it is a two way one lane road and ride accordingly. Be aware of what's coming, or COULD be coming, from the other direction and you'll be fine.

A couple of quick turns put us on a short section of narrow muddy two track. It was here that I saw what a good rider could do! Chuck, the KTM, and the yellow Suzuki were ....gone. POOF! Gone.
I was riding - to me - pretty hard. It was all I could do to just keep them in sight. The only reason I could was due to the tightness of the trail not letting them open up completely. It is always a treat for me to follow someone like that. I learn from their lines and try to improve by seeing what they do and how they position themselves for turns and terrain conditions. Pretty cool.
So, after splashing through several mudholes and spinning up some gravel, we came out on Junaluska Road. This paved section took us back up to Bateman's Store and closed this little loop.

From there we headed over to the beginning of FS 711. 711 is a paved road, sort of, that doesn't appear to challenging from a dual sport perspective at first. But here is the catch: large sections of pavement lure you into "street mode", then the road throws a big patch of dirt/gravel at you in a blind curve. If you are not on your toes, this road could put you down. You'll be in full on asphalt warrior mode and then BAM! the pavement is all ripped out and you're leaned into the turn, committed to a paved line that suddenly no longer exists! Get it?

We emerged from 711 and were back on Wayah Road. A quick jaunt took us to Rainbow Springs Road. This is another graded gravel section that connects to US 64. Here I saw the true ability of Chuck and the KTM/Suzuki guys. I really don't understand the physics of how they ride like that and not fall down in a turn. I try to emulate them, but fall short. I keep thinking the front will wash out and cut my corner speed accordingly. These guys just slide the rear, power out of the curve, and are gone like a bat out of hell! I envy that skill. I truly do.

At the end of Rainbow Springs, we decided we were hungry. The plan was to head to Hayesville for Bar-B-Que! Oh yeah, I am all for that! So down 64 we went, a group of DS bikes thundering through the mountains headed for FOOD!

I swapped bikes with David from Chattanooga for part of this ride. But, just up the road from where we stopped, Chuck had turned onto Old US 64. I had never been down here before. David and I switched bikes again because his had street tires and I didn't want to dump it if we hit some rough stuff. I didn't need to worry, though. This was "just" a twisty asphalt ride on a section of old road. It was a more interesting and fun way to get to Hayesville.

After lunch, we geared up and went in search of Tusquittee Gap. I like Tusquittee Gap. It isn't too rough, but it has enough technical turns and dirt to make it just plain fun. We rode up and over the mountain to the Gap. I was chasing Chuck and the yellow DR and doing my best to stay with them. Yeah, right. I followed their tracks.

I came out of one turn and there is Chuck, camera in hand, waving me on by. At this point I heard a rumble beside me. The KTM had appeared out of nowhere like a great orange ghost. I had been expecting him, but even though I had been checking my mirrors now and then, he took me by surprise. A nod to acknowledge him and I moved aside to let him by.
We rode fast through the next section of the road, hitting the high spots and powering through turns as best I could. In short order I was again looking at empty road ahead of me. Wow.

At the end of Tusquittee, we had grouped up and made our way back to Junaluska Road. Some of us split off from here and others continued on.

It was a great ride and I am truly sorry I can't remember the names of all the people I rode with yesterday. I need to work on that. Everyone in the group was great to ride with and I'm glad we got to meet.

I look forward to the next ride!!
07-17-2008 08:56 PM
cherokee_chuck Been meaning to set a rating for this ride and haven't done it until now......

Rating = 2.0 (optional 3-3.5s)
07-17-2008 07:47 PM
cherokee_chuck I guess it's time for roll call so we will know how many to expect at Bateman's and also if anyone is meeting us at lunch for the afternoon excursion.

Let me know if you are not on the list and are planning on meeting at Bateman's (or at lunch: Andrews). We don't want to leave anyone behind! I'm combining from all forums.

Meeting at Bateman's Gas Station & Lakeside Cabins, 17974 Wayah Rd, Topton NC

Rider_______________________For Sure!______________Maybe?

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John (GA)____________________
Driller___________________________________________ ____
NC Rick______________________
motopro________________________The Dalton Gang!__
07-12-2008 12:00 AM
GaThumper Here's our planned little morning ride, ending with lunch in Andrews. After lunch... Up Chuck's Revenge!

Blue is the main loop, Red is Buck Creek Rd, Green is Perry Gap Rd, and Pink Is Nelson Ridge Rd.

There's at least one big river crossing (Bob?) and if the water is not any higher Bob has scouted and crossed over to Buck Creek Rd. If we can cross there we probably take Buck Creek Rd instead of Rainbow Springs Rd.

River crossing to Buck Creek Rd

Then we could take a run up Perry Gap Rd if it looks interesting.

Off of Cold Branch Rd is Nelson Ridge Rd (In HOT Pink), if we have time before lunch and it looks interesting we could take a side trip to check it out.

BTW, the dotted orange line is a 5.5 on Chuck's scale, we just push you off down the hill and then we ride around to Tusquittee Rd and see if you made it!

If you survive, then it's a good short cut.
07-09-2008 05:57 PM
cherokee_chuck Later on, Scott lost his front tire and ended up breading his leg near the ankle. Let's hope for better results, this time.
07-09-2008 11:28 AM
GaThumper Teaser pics...

What do you think guys? Chuck said we could hit this after lunch with an alternate route for the less adventurous.

Looks good to me!

07-04-2008 12:10 AM
GaThumper I'll TRY and get the important facts on each of the forums where the ride is posted, but I can't really duplicate every reply in every forum...

The original post is here...


There's also a thread in the "southeast" forum on klr650.net and klrforum.com if you want to read them all!

Here's Bob/RBrider's post with some meeting place details...

If anyone needs to trailer in (for whatever reason), I can find a safe place to park 'em . Pm me for an address. I'd recomend Batemans Gas Station & Lakeside Cabins as a good meeting point. It's on Wayah Rd 1/2 mile east of Junaluska Rd. I say hitting the road at 9:30 oughtta work well. So shoot for being at Bateman's, or the trailer parking spot by 9:00 am, Friday 7/18/08. The proposed trailer parking is two miles from Bateman's Gas St.

You can top off your tank here, if needed.

I emailed James a proposed route, but nothing is cast in stone. My route contains nothing new, but is still a fun day of riding,imo. It covers most of the roads discussed in the previous thread, but laid out in two loops. Before & after lunch. And yes, it is pretty easy,if you keep the speed down.

Chuck, if you can make it, I'll gladly turn tour guide duties over to you. You're a walking talking road map. That's good thing!! sml3.. BTW, I found the (deep & wide) river crossings on Water Gauge Rd, but no luck on finding a route out to 64, except via Rainbow Springs. ??????

James, I appreciate you (& Steve) arranging this so we can do it while I'm still in town. :clap: :clap:

Looking forward to seeing everyone.

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