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05-11-2015 01:57 PM
CheapBassTurd God cleans my bike when I ride in the rain.

I have to do the filter tho. LOL

It's good to do a really good cleaning for inspection purposes.
Looking for a crack in a casting, crud getting in switches, a fastener
that came out, loose mount bolt, etc. Other than once or twice a year I only wipe chain
oil off the rear wheel once a week so that's my "kept clean" part.

I agree on simplifying too which is the direction the thread went.
Just run clean oil, clean the filter and chain, ride, and forget the details.

Ride 'em if ya got 'em,
Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeap
05-10-2015 01:20 PM
acidman1968
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Originally Posted by planalp View Post
Don't forget to use some metal polish on the flats of the rear suspension linkage nuts and bolt heads......

Contrary to my own habits, I actually admire folks who take the time and effort to keep their machines cleaned up. It's not one I possess, but I consider it a good trait in a person.....
Would riding the bike in the rain be considered washing the bike? It was really heavy rain...
05-10-2015 01:10 PM
planalp
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planalp you'll be glad to know I got the KLR cleaned up and shammied down.
Don't forget to use some metal polish on the flats of the rear suspension linkage nuts and bolt heads......

Contrary to my own habits, I actually admire folks who take the time and effort to keep their machines cleaned up. It's not one I possess, but I consider it a good trait in a person.....



05-10-2015 12:52 PM
Savage I finally got the KLR out for a DS ride yesterday and got her dirty... It's raining again today so nothing else to do but give her a quick bath... This thread got me thinking about checking out the air filter... Looking at it reminded me that the last time I looked at it the side that faces out was very clean so I just flipped it 180 degrees.
Dirty:


I removed it and cleaned it and my KTMs air filter. I just clean them in hot water with dish soap. Look at the huge difference in surface area. And it's a little 250cc !



planalp you'll be glad to know I got the KLR cleaned up and shammied down.
05-10-2015 10:05 AM
GoMotor
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Originally Posted by planalp View Post
I use the sticky spray oil (can't remember what brand) both on the inside and outside, then massage it in with my hands.

I think Savage makes a good point: there's no reason to sit around and obsess about filter, chain or engine oil.

It's just like your health: you can fixate and worry about every "study" that comes out about food or whatever but what really screws you in the end is thinking and worrying about it all in the first place when in the end it really doesn't make any difference or, in the end end, what you accepted as gospel turns out to be totally wrong or is proven to really not matter at all.

In the case of engine, chain and filter oil, the only people who gain anything from all the indecision and conjecture are the ones selling it. Common motorcycle components like foam filters and chains have been around long enough that if somebody had the "magic potion" for any application, everybody would be using it and only one entity would be rich from producing the perfect product.

As long as you use a derivative of engine oil that's acceptable as stated in the owner's manual, it's all good. It ain't worth worrying about. Between 2 brands/formulations of oil that are accepted by Kawasaki, the "better" of them isn't going to greatly extend the life of your engine and, even if it did, unless you're the rare KLR owner, you won't have the thing until either it or you dies, anyway.

If they keep you wondering, they all get rich and you're not any better off in the end.

Just clean and oil the damned thing (whatever it is), ride on and be done with it. The Owner's Manual tells you all you need to know about cleaning and oiling the air filter, as well as how to maintain your chain and what engine oil to use.

Don't mean to come across as a dick but it really ain't worth spending your time thinking about. It's all pretty simple and a matter of common sense.
Bingo!!! There are no engine oil, oil filter type, filter oil, air filter type, chain lube or tire cops out there giving out tickets for the use of non-approved consumables. As long as the oil is oily, the filters catch dirt and the tires are round these things are not major life decisions.
05-09-2015 08:26 PM
planalp I use the sticky spray oil (can't remember what brand) both on the inside and outside, then massage it in with my hands.

I think Savage makes a good point: there's no reason to sit around and obsess about filter, chain or engine oil.

It's just like your health: you can fixate and worry about every "study" that comes out about food or whatever but what really screws you in the end is thinking and worrying about it all in the first place when in the end it really doesn't make any difference or, in the end end, what you accepted as gospel turns out to be totally wrong or is proven to really not matter at all.

In the case of engine, chain and filter oil, the only people who gain anything from all the indecision and conjecture are the ones selling it. Common motorcycle components like foam filters and chains have been around long enough that if somebody had the "magic potion" for any application, everybody would be using it and only one entity would be rich from producing the perfect product.

As long as you use a derivative of engine oil that's acceptable as stated in the owner's manual, it's all good. It ain't worth worrying about. Between 2 brands/formulations of oil that are accepted by Kawasaki, the "better" of them isn't going to greatly extend the life of your engine and, even if it did, unless you're the rare KLR owner, you won't have the thing until either it or you dies, anyway.

If they keep you wondering, they all get rich and you're not any better off in the end.

Just clean and oil the damned thing (whatever it is), ride on and be done with it. The Owner's Manual tells you all you need to know about cleaning and oiling the air filter, as well as how to maintain your chain and what engine oil to use.

Don't mean to come across as a dick but it really ain't worth spending your time thinking about. It's all pretty simple and a matter of common sense.



05-09-2015 05:52 PM
Savage Anyone and everyone can oil, or not oil, their filter how ever they want. I don't give a cr ap. I'm just posting how I do it. I would never dump my air filter in motor oil and squeeze out all the extra. But if someone wants to do it that way then fine, do it! Hell maybe even one of my riding buddies does it that way. I wouldn't know because we don't sit around and argue about how we oil our filters.
We don't sit around and argue about how we oil, or not, oil and clean our chains.
We don't argue about whether we should use Rotella or a specific oil, or if we should only run synthetic Motorex oil in our KTM's because that is what the manual states.

I only throw out my opinion. If someone doesn't agree with it; fine. Doesn't bother me any.
05-09-2015 01:24 PM
pdwestman I'll add, that K &N air filter oil is 'intended' for gauze filters only.

And any of the spray-on 'Foam Air Filter' oils that I have used read some thing like this,
"should be shaken thoroughly and applied liberally to the inner and outer surfaces."
Further instruction, "Gently knead filter while spraying with filter oil."

For best air filtration we need the foam oiled "thru and thru", IMHO.

Kinda' hard to "knead" a framed gauze filter, like a K&N. So, different type of oil.
For a different type of element.
05-09-2015 10:35 AM
GoMotor
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My opinion is similar to pdwestman's. You can't put too much oil on the filter. Drop it in a bucket of oil if you want. Then squeeze out as much as you can and go with it. If you didn't squeeze enough, the excess will drip in the bottom of the air box and hurt nothing. If enough drips in the air box, it will drip out the drain below the filter. If you leave way too much and a few drops get sucked into the clean air side of the air box, it also will drain out through the drain line on the right side of the clean air box and be caught by the plug in the end of the drain line, so you will know you left too much oil in the filter.

Oily dirt looks different than dry dirt. The filter does a fine job of catching dirt. I have had oily dirt 1/16" deep on the outside of the filter and the inside was still nice and yellow looking foam. The bike didn't run very well, but the dirt didn't get through the filter. It was that fine poofy alkali talcum powder type dust in the Nevada

So, oil it, squeeze it and ride it.
My comments above are related to the engine oil that I use on the air filter. Not spray-on tacky oil that I have never used. I assume the can of spray-on oil comes with instructions.
05-09-2015 09:39 AM
Savage I use any brand of spray. I like the kind than fans out. K&N fans out.
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