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02-10-2011 12:46 AM
rickkd6 Just feed the pig (klr) oil when it's hungry and enjoy the pig.
02-05-2011 09:51 AM
DallasTXRider
Thanks for the info!

Thanks guys! I now know how to post my own thread and not jump in mid converstaion just to yell out that "I love lamp!" (Ron Bergundy movie reference for those of you who dont watch moves..) Thanks again guys, ride on!
02-04-2011 03:57 PM
Spec
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Originally Posted by DallasTXRider View Post
Hello all! I am new to the forum and new to the motorcycle family. I will be getting my KLR in the next 2 weeks here in the Dallas area and am super stoked! I was able to find a new 2009 for about 4k (good deal?). I have called multiple dealership and cannot find any new 09's, at all. I found an owner operator that just so happens to have an 09 black model, exactly what I want so I think I should jump on it.
Quick question about the bikes condition right now; it's new so its been sitting on the floor for the past few years along with the oil. Do I need to be concerned about the stagnant oil in the carburator or other parts? Should I be concerned about the recall issue of the 08 and 09 models? Any advice would be priceless to me. I will admit that I am a newb and need any first time buyer advice I can get. Thanks guys, and I look forward to post my adventures along with everyone else. Ride on!

Not to stray off the topic, hah!

1st motorcycle? If so budget for good gear figure about $750. Sounds like a lot but one trip to the ER will cost more. Don't ride without a full face helmet, motorcycle specific jacket, gloves and boots. Pants should be in there too but they're more for road rash than broken bones, still no fun getting the gravel scrubbed out of your skin!

Get training, find a MSF Basic Rider Course in your area. You don't even need a bike they supply one for the class.

Read David Hough's


it just might save your life.

and oh yea welcome!
02-04-2011 12:45 PM
Tom Schmitz
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Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
...a more knowledgeable individual (e.g., a MODERATOR)...
Damocles -

Shouldn't that have been in the Jokers Lounge?

T
02-04-2011 12:00 PM
Damocles Fear not, DTR!

The oil's o.k., and at most, you may need to clean the carburetor. If it runs o.k., not even that.

The price is right for a new '09.

A dealer can check all pending recalls against your bike's VIN and perform any applicable, at no cost to you.

Enjoy your new bike!

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O.K., posting a new thread.

First, you must be REGISTERED.

Next, you must click on "FORUM," at the top of the page.

Then, when you enter the Forum, you must click on a PARTICULAR forum, like . . . this one, "KLR and Other Motorcycle-Related blah-blah-blah."

At the LOWER LEFT, after all the other threads on the first page are listed, you will see a little thingy that says someting like, "NEW THREAD."

Click on that cryptic legend, and . . . you'll be asked to create a title and the Original Post of your new thread.

My suggestions; a more knowledgeable individual (e.g., a MODERATOR) may offer better and more effective guidance; good luck!
02-04-2011 11:20 AM
DallasTXRider
I can't figure out how to post my OWN thread..?

Hello all! I am new to the forum and new to the motorcycle family. I will be getting my KLR in the next 2 weeks here in the Dallas area and am super stoked! I was able to find a new 2009 for about 4k (good deal?). I have called multiple dealership and cannot find any new 09's, at all. I found an owner operator that just so happens to have an 09 black model, exactly what I want so I think I should jump on it.
Quick question about the bikes condition right now; it's new so its been sitting on the floor for the past few years along with the oil. Do I need to be concerned about the stagnant oil in the carburator or other parts? Should I be concerned about the recall issue of the 08 and 09 models? Any advice would be priceless to me. I will admit that I am a newb and need any first time buyer advice I can get. Thanks guys, and I look forward to post my adventures along with everyone else. Ride on!
02-04-2011 11:16 AM
Tom Schmitz Damocles -

I think that going back to a pre-'08 piston and ring set, with a hone, would probably solve the problem for the Gen2 bikes.

To this point in time, I don't think anyone has found a ring set to replace the Kawasaki set that categorically solves the problem. There was someone who had found a set, might have been a Perfect Circle set, but I never heard more on that.

Kawi will warranty the problem, but with a questionable solution. It's regualrly reproted that the solution lasts for a few thousand miles.

The 685 will fix the problem, so if one is going to try and effect a repair, why not go the 685 route and get the other advantages the kit offers?

T
02-04-2011 10:48 AM
Damocles
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Originally Posted by Spec View Post
Find a used bike. Plan on installing the 685 kit.
For 20 years, KLR650's were produced WITHOUT systemic excessive oil consumption problems; this with engines displacing nominally 650 cc.

Thus, I do not think latter-day oil consumption problems are a result of KLR650's NOT displacing 685 cc.

While the Schnitz kit may not be plagued with excessive oil consumption problems, the cure lies somewhere besides the displacment increase. For example, maybe the ring design/construction offers lower oil consumption in service.

Kinda hard to explain, I'll take a stab at an analog, or parable: Once, long ago, a pig was trapped in a burning house. After the fire burned out, people went in to inspect the damage; one visitor touched the carcass of the pig.

The pig's body was still hot from the fire, burning the individual's fingers; he put his fingers into his mouth to quench the heat . . . mankind, for the first time in history, then tasted roast pork!

Finding the dish deliciious, the humans of the planet, whenever they had an appetite for roast pork, would tie up a pig in a house and set the dwelling on fire. After the conflagration, the people enjoyed a feast of roast pork.

Sometime later, more efficient means than burning down houses were developed for cooking pork.

My point: Going to a 685 kit to solve the oil-consumption problem on a KLR650 seems to me not unlike burning down a house to roast a pig. You'll come up with roast pork, but more efficient means may exist to produce that menu item.

Similarly, I would hope oil consumption problems might be solved with KLR650's by means other than going to the extent of installing a big-bore kit.

What means? Re-hone? Re-ring? I don't know, but--I have a hard time getting my mind around the notion that one, and only one, cure for excessive oil consumption on a KLR650 is installing an aftermarket big-bore kit.

How would one explain the 20-years of non-oil glutton production?

For an update, other than a window of '08 KLR650 production, has excessive oil consumption continued to plague KLR650 motorcycles?

If the problem is a result of faulty design, materials, or workmanship, I'd hope Kawasaki does the right thing and warranty-repairs the afflicted machines.

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Disclaimer: The parable isn't original, see "A Dissertation Upon Roast Pig:"

http://www.angelfire.com/nv/mf/elia1/pig.htm
02-04-2011 09:26 AM
Spec
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Originally Posted by Tom Schmitz View Post
Sorry, I don't make a distinction between using oil and burning oil.

They use it by letting it get past the rings and into the combustion chamber, where it burns to death.

"Oh, the humanity", Tom said hotly.

Mine, like most, uses/burns copious amounts of oil. It ranges from half a quart in a 1000 miles to a quart and a half in a 1000 miles. The greater consumption is when the thing is run over 5000 rpm for extended periods.

Some folks don't experience the excessive consumption. There are several theories as to why....


T

Kawasaki won't admit that they screwed up the motor on the Gen 2 bikes. They know that it's a problem, there's even a class action suit against them. Kawasaki doesn't support their customers so why should you reward them by buying new?

Find a used bike. Plan on installing the 685 kit.
02-03-2011 10:16 PM
roginoz The dealer I bought my '09 from had a bunch of them left over. (Mine was still in the box when I bought it; I picked it up a few days later after they set it up.) The only difference between the '09 and the '10 that I can see is the stick-on graphics. I think the '09 looked better than the '10, but I removed the graphics and think the bike looks better. The '11 model has a blacked out engine, and the graphics look better than the '10. Not worth the extra bucks, in my opinion. You'll save a bunch of money buying a leftover '09, and not give up anything in the way of performance. Personal property tax (if they levy it in your state) will cost less, and insurance should, too. (It's a a two year old bike, as far as the insurance co. is concerned. As others have pointed out, the current economy has dampened discretionary purchases, so it's a bit of a buyer's market for motorcycles. Buy the '09, and use the several hundred dollars you'll save for farkles.
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