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post #1 of 11 Old 04-08-2012, 02:04 AM Thread Starter
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When I ride home from work at night in the dark, I rarely even see another vehicle except for on a short, 2-mile stretch of Interstate I ride.

Strangely enough, on the last two nights, I've been accompanied by fellow motorcyclists on what is usually a solo trip.

The night before last, I wound up behind a motorcyclist who was maintaining the same relative speed I was: around 50 or so. I followed him for about 15 miles and stayed a respectful distance behind him so my lights wouldn't bother him. We finally got to the Interstate and he went one way and I went another. He was riding what appeared to be a Gold Wing-type bike and waved back at me as he turned one way and I turned another.

Tonight, at an intersection I saw some reflections I'd never seen there before and as I passed, I saw a group of bikers along the side of the road in the dark with their lights off. I couldn't see exactly what they were riding.

I continued on, at my sedate pace of around 50mph and after about 5 miles, I saw single headlights rapidly approaching from my rear.

Then, three whining sportbikes blasted past me one at a time. I couldn't see the operators, but each bike had a girl perched on the back wearing nothing but a helmet and some light clothing like jeans, windbreakers and tennis shoes. On a warmer night, I'm sure they would have been wearing shorts. I would estimate they were doing about 80mph.

Mind you, this was at 11:15 at night on a dark, twisting, country two-lane.

Hey, I realized their machines were more street-capable than mine and, for all I know, they were better riders than me, but all I kept thinking of was, "What if an animal runs out in front of them?" I'd go around the next curve hoping I wouldn't see them involved in an accident.

10 more miles down the road at a T-type intersection I saw the ones that had passed me again stopped on the shoulder, waiting on one of their compadres who was lagging behind but still came up on me at a high rate of speed just before the intersection.

They went one way, I went the other.

I've done a lot of stupid things and have risked my life on more than one occasion. It's not my lot in life to preach safety to others and dictate how they ride and what they wear, (granted, I strongly endorse ATGATT) but seeing those kids on those sportbikes tonight was kind of shocking.

I've had a lot of animals run out across the road in front of me on that ride home, mostly smaller ones like possums, raccoons and coyotes, but any of those are more than capable of taking out any bike if hit the wrong way.

I'm assuming they either hadn't thought of that, or were willing to take the risk for the thrill of riding that fast on a country road at night.

As noted, I've done a lot of dumb things in my life and I try not to be judgmental, but this bugged me. Maybe I'm just getting old. I found myself saying out loud, "You f-ing idiots!" as they passed me.

It's one thing if you want to go out and do that stuff on your own, but with your girlfriends perched on the back?

It just really bugged me. Thus ends my rant.



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post #2 of 11 Old 04-08-2012, 11:22 AM
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Grudgingly admit I've been there done that with myself when I rode sports, but my fiance (now my wife) I always suited and booted with. My father always taught me "there are those that have gone down, and those that have YET to go down." I was never willing to take responsibility for my wife getting hurt. Hopefully those kids will gain a little knowledge without anyone geting hurt. Guessing their guardian angels were orking OT that night. ;-)

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Reminds me of this old thread.
http://www.cycleforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=212059

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Your lead pretty well sums it up. Sounds like they were at that "invincible age", possibly fueled by some foreign substance. Suspect most of us are fortunate to have survived as long as we have.

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It used to bug me seeing riders without gear but I'm a "ride your own bike" kind of a guy now. Adults live with their choices.

I do get upset with loud bikes and people riding like idots, makes it bad for all riders.

No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him. 1 Cor 2:9
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The sad thing is it's probably going to take an incident to get their attention, but probably won't stick in their minds long.
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I agree...it's sad. I see girls perched on the little triangles on the back of sport bikes in short shorts and it just makes me sick to my stomach. I want to make them watch gravel getting scraped out of that pretty skin. Things changed dramatically for me after I saw that.

I've never been down, street or dirt, but when it happens, I'm gonna be ready.




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It used to bug me seeing riders without gear but I'm a "ride your own bike" kind of a guy now. Adults live with their choices.
Good point. I didn't now these people and they were adults. If I see somebody doing something stupid in a car, I really don't care, so why was I concerned about the folks on the bikes?

Found some irony in it, actually. I made my slow, safe ride home with all my safety precautions and made it on one piece, but then commenced to smoking cigarettes, drinking beer and eating crap that the doctor tells me I shouldn't eat.

Their probably-sporadic habit of riding their bikes in (what I consider) an unsafe manner without the proper gear is probably far less dangerous in the long run than some of the choices I've been making every day for the last 50 years so I really have no room to talk.



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Some time last year I was on our local sport bike forum, which I'd been on for 2 years, and progressively watched go down hill, filling up with kids, bad riders and squids. It was to the point I wouldn't ride with anyone off that forum aside from the people I already knew in real life, then new guy comes on, first post 'writtin in som a duh wurst writin id eva seen' asking (a few weeks after getting his first bike) how do I wheelie? and just being a complete squid. I knew he would be a danger to others on a ride, plus a HUGE cop magnet.. so I asked that he be banned, mods refused so I left the forum.

Last week I met up with an old buddy from the forum, he told me apparently that same kid 2 months ago was doing 100 something down the highway here and went right into the back of a truck, killing the girl on the back of his bike.. It pisses me off, but sometimes you just know.


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I forgot this part too, "Olsen (the girl) had been wearing a helmet at the time of impact but if flew off" Obviously she didn't have her own helmet so this freaking kid puts one of his on here that DID NOT FIT TIGHTLY.

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Some time last year I was on our local sport bike forum, which I'd been on for 2 years, and progressively watched go down hill, filling up with kids, bad riders and squids. It was to the point I wouldn't ride with anyone off that forum aside from the people I already knew in real life, then new guy comes on, first post 'writtin in som a duh wurst writin id eva seen' asking (a few weeks after getting his first bike) how do I wheelie? and just being a complete squid. I knew he would be a danger to others on a ride, plus a HUGE cop magnet.. so I asked that he be banned, mods refused so I left the forum.

Last week I met up with an old buddy from the forum, he told me apparently that same kid 2 months ago was doing 100 something down the highway here and went right into the back of a truck, killing the girl on the back of his bike.. It pisses me off, but sometimes you just know.

When someone comes on this forum talking about getting their first bike I always recommend a MSF Basic Rider class and to read David Hough's Proficient Motorcycling. I know I sound like a broken record, uhh what would that be in today's tech a DJ's repeating rap thing? Anyway, give a new rider some sort of training can only increase their odds of survival.

Sport bikes and young men is a dangerous combo. I work for the Navy, they recoginzed the issue and have taken steps to try to mitigate the deaths/injuries. Mandatory training and mentoring is required for all riders and even more extensive training for sport bikes.

My .02... as long as someone is willing to listen try to talk some sense into them. A forum is a perfect place for that.

No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him. 1 Cor 2:9
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