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post #1 of 9 Old 04-27-2016, 01:13 AM Thread Starter
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Got wood? (woodstovers)

Switched to wood heat over the winter.

Not a bad idea living in the forest and receiving $600-700 heat bills during the November to March chill.

Last two bills were 118, and 121 bucks for a month. Hmm......
At two grand for the stove, piping, wallboard, etc, it has already
paid for half of itself. That's a lotta farkles.

The tree crew was on 1000 North today hacking up trees too close
to the road and power lines. I pulled over and loaded the trunk as
they cut. Win/win. My family gets free wood, and the cutting crew
had a very easy cleanup at the end of their shift. Double bonus.

In this transition weather, it's kinda awesome having the windows open
at 50 degrees and a roaster going in the potbelly. It also has two
cooking burners. Hot stove and a fresh breeze indoors is very cool.

With a KLR, fishing, hunting, and two acres to garden, we're fully
ready to survive a total meltdown of life as we know it. Off grid,
and goin' Amish if necessary. Making another wood run before
all the good splittables are gone. We have Sep and Oct split n'
stacked, and the November pile is here needing processed. My goal
is to have all of next winter ready to cook by the 4th of July as some
of the stuff is green, like today's cuts. They need to sit in the sun
6 months to cure out the sap (creosote).

On another note: No one is sneezing anymore by leaving the furnace off. Mold issues.

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Sounds like Cheap is Going All Straight Up Laura Ingalls Wilder on us. That's cool.

We used to have a wood stove in the basement (first an old potbelly and then a more modern double-walled unit with an electric blower on top of it spliced into the heating ducts) but our 100-year-old chimney got to the point where it needed a liner to be safe and we didn't have the money to put one in so we gave up on the wood.

Our heat bills aren't extreme here but if I lived in more Northern climes, I would most certainly demand a wood stove not only for the savings but also for the ambience and the Zen-like experience of finding, splitting, curing and stacking firewood. For those who have never done it, there's something very satisfying about procuring, processing and storing wood for future use. I'm sure Cheap knows what I'm talking about.

Back in the day before antiques were all the craze, hard telling how many giant wood kitchen cookstoves around here were just burned/buried along with the farmhouse they were in just because nobody wanted them or wanted to mess with taking them out of the house.



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There IS something very Abe Lincoln-ish about it.

It's a very satisfying feeling. Something about "these hands produced this heat".
I sing lil' worship tunes bangin' away with the maul in my glasses n' steel toes.
I look at the pile/ stack and see the warmth in my mind.

Finding good deads. Recently tipped in the windstorms but not yet to the ground
are like striking gold. It's an art I'm starting to learn. Non rotted deads are ready
to slash n' burn, the greens will go to the other end of the wood wall to be cooked up
later in the season.

We have a row of cedars that holds the wall of splits together. Stax in each tree gap
all in a 1 acre row. As of now the row is 10 ft long, by 4ft high. LOL

It's splitting day and the wall will grow............
Hope to afford a splitter this summer with the overtime pay.

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I don't know what wood you are burning but it probably needs to sit until next year before it is seasoned. I had Oak and Maple split in Jan. that was still 25% moisture in Nov. Way to high to burn without causing issues. This was all from cut logs that were down the fall before hand.

Go get a moisture meter from Lowes/ HD etc. They are around $30 and well worth using so you don't burn the house down.

I never burn anything I cut in the same season, it will sit for another year before it hits the stove.

I managed to just recently hit the jackpot. The place the little woman works gets Oak 4x4's that come in with a load of steel. I picked up several hundred 10' 4x4's the other week and started cutting away. It's already been kiln dried so I am good to go this winter if it's needed.

I burn coal mostly but substitute wood at the beginning and end of the season when a coal fire isn't quite needed every day. I use roughly about a ton of coal a month so $180 to heat the house in the winter and the elec. bill is less than $150. Without the stove and elec. heat running it would be almost $400-$500.
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Thank you on the seasoning length of time.

At the woodstove forum the guys all said too for newbies to get a moisture meter
and take multiple readings along the split.
Due to our friend, the Ash Borer, ash is the most commonly sold firewood in the area.
I cook ash, maple, pine, oak, and a beech to hack up. Primarily ash. I understand
it's a no-no on the pine from the website. (Burns too hot n' gooey) There's a 14'
straight pipe and I have a stiff wire circle. Easy to clean and we burn stuff that
would make those guys crap. "Don't start a fire with colored junk mail, I have to
breathe the same air", etc. etc. (It doubles as an incinerator but with some sense)

Luckily the dead but still dense wood is plentiful that I started processing. Got two
acres of forest floor to groom (and expand KLR Blvd) right here fer the burnin'. Two
massive windstorms brought many weak trees down.

NICE hit on the 4 x 4's. You make da Cheapster proud.

I'm ravaging a subdivision under construction and they said I could
have all the little crap. Free killer kindle!

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I have been burning wood for years now. I live very close to a huge cabinet shop and they put out two or three cords of wood in hay wagons daily for the public to take. My first stove I got for about $250 and I did all the metal studs, cement board and piping myself. Got it all approved, and insured good to go. I can't even say how much money I have saved over the years. Thousands to be sure. I also work at a place that throws out large pallets and a lot of them have oak 4x4 on them. I regularly pick them up and cut them up, more free wood. I also pick up trees here and there from various storms or when I see a neighbor clearing for whatever reason. Last season a neighbor cut down a 18" dia ash and I got all of that.

I love burning wood for heat as it is so comforting. A lot of work and dirty but nice.

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I just wanted to say it got cold and damp here again so I grabbed a few chunks of my new to me 4x4 firewood and split them. Moisture inside was 12-15% and the outside was around 10 so guess who's wood stove was hot again the past 2 days.


Did I mention it's the nicest stacking wood I've ever had ?

Also grabbed another load on saturday for myself and helped a buddy load his 7x12 dump trailer 4 times with pallets(oak) and scraps(pine). He has an outdoor wood burner so he'll take anything that's flammable. The fire box on that thing is 4 feet long and like 2 feet wide ?
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For the last 15 years or so I've had an antique cook stove sitting in my garage. It's the same stove which was in my house when I was growing up, and the same stove that was in my father's house when he was a kid. I'd love to put the stove into service, but unfortunately, Northern Utah gets really bad "inversions" where the cold air gets trapped in the valleys - which also traps all the pollution from the cars, trucks, industry, and fireplaces / wood stoves in the Salt Lake metro area. Because the air quality gets so bad, they institute "NO BURN" days, and levy fines against people who utilize their fireplaces and such on those days.

So here I sit, with a beautiful antique wood stove that I can't use. It really sucks!

Back home we used to burn pinion pine and cedar / juniper in the stove. Dad and I would go out each summer on weekends and bring home several truckloads of wood we'd cut. We'd stack the wood on alternate ends of the wood pile each year. That way, the newly cut wood would sit for a year before being used, and we'd burn the stuff that was already cured. The next year, we'd stack in the area we burned the prior winter and then burn the stuff we'd cut the previous year. That system worked out great!

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Coppersmeltingaciddude,

I agree on having a linear system. when we get to the end of the row, start back at the
refilled beginning. That's the plan. With a lil' work I can get together two winter's worth.

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