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post #1 of 11 Old 02-19-2019, 09:55 PM Thread Starter
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To Master the Link or Not?

So, ill start with, I should have known better. I got into sort of a heated discussion the other day with a 25 year old kid i work with. Im 37. I was talking with another fellow rider about doing some work to his Ninja. He wants to put the OEM swing arm back on and he was asking me what all parts he needed to get. I suggested that if it was needed, lets go ahead and do the brakes while we are there, you know check the bearings and everything. He asked about what chain he should get and i suggested O-ring or X-ring would be great and last longer. Then here comes the heated part, he asked about the master link. I told him yea, most come with the chain. Then the kid without any dog in this fight, looks to the Ninja owner and says, "Dont get a master link, they fail." Now in my, 20+ years of riding and working on my own stuff, I have never had a failure that wasnt my own doings. Not getting the retaining clip on all the way.

So have you guys had any issues that im not aware of?
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post #2 of 11 Old 02-19-2019, 10:45 PM
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Clip type master links have been around and used on motorcycles since dirt was new.

It is only with the advent of power-vaping flat-billed cap wearing millennial man buns driving fart-can Hondas who can't read directions or use tools or have a lick of common sense outside of a video game that they have become a 'problem'. Or maybe it was with the invention of the o-ring chain, I forget. I like to blame millennials for most things, so let's go with that.

If the master link that was provided with your chain is properly installed (side plate pressed on, clip fully installed and in the correct orientation, then the side plates moved back out in contact with the clip) you should never have a problem with the master link.

Back in the old days before o-ring chains we just put a master link on and had the good sense to install the clip correctly and off we went. When the o-ring chains came along things chainged (yuck yuck). The side plate needs to be pressed in a bit against the o-rings so that you can get the clip on, but you don't want to leave the plate pressed in like that. It needs to be popped back out against the clip which puts it in the proper alignment, gives the link the correct width and doesn't crush the o-rings.

If it gives you or the owner comfort, you can lock-wire the clip in place.
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They don't fail if installed correctly. The millennial is wrong.

Like he thinks he is right but he is like wrong dude.
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Assume . . . "installed correctly" includes having open side of clip aligned opposite of chain movement direction.

No financial interest in Cycle Gear, and I'm not proud of supporting Chinese-made hardware, but . . . Cycle Gear markets a chain master link press, chain breaker, and master link pin riveter kit; a product with versatile capability. A "Stockton Tool Company" offering. Handy when you need it; oughta last; and often on sale.

https://www.cyclegear.com/accessorie...rivet-tool-kit

(From this link, go to, "Tools and Maintenance," then scroll down to, "Stockton Chain Breaker And Rivet Tool Kit."

A plain ol' chain breaker (only) is available at much lower cost; some initiative and innovative techniques will help one make it through the night; even files, bench grinders, vise-grips, hammer-and-punch, etc., all have their place, moment, and application.

Now, not to take a side in the shop-floor argument/discussion, but . . . I think even "ENDLESS" chains may have riveted master links . . .
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It is only with the advent of power-vaping flat-billed cap wearing millennial man buns driving fart-can Hondas who can't read directions or use tools or have a lick of common sense outside of a video game that they have become a 'problem'. Or maybe it was with the invention of the o-ring chain, I forget. I like to blame millennials for most things, so let's go with that.
I call the ones who permanently leave all the large stickers/tags on their flat-billed caps "Minnie Pearls."

Then again, in my youth, status was determined by how much of a bend/curl you get get on the brim of your trucker hat, usually achieved by wetting it and wrapping it with rubber bands around a roll of Copenhagen or Skoal cans and letting it dry/form in place.......

I guess the "OG's" back in the day were the old farmers who left the bills flat on their free Funks G Hybrid or Dekalb snap-back hats they got for buying 500 bags of seed corn, giving us shit in the beer joint about "ruining a perfectly good hat" by bending the brim.

So, millenials may think they're original when it comes to flat-brimmed hats, but in reality they're just fashion clones of 1970's Midwestern farmers with less class.........

I rest my case:



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Didn't we go through this last week?
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Someone told me, Stock Car racing teams employ a technician whose only duty is ROLLING the brims on the driver's caps.
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46 years and 41 motorcycles; the vast majority of which had master links - no problems.

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I've seen bikes back in the day with as many as 3 master links in a chain that never had any trouble. As mentioned before. It's ALL about the orientation of the clip. Put it on backwards and you're asking for trouble.
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Another fashion faux pax; the "distressed" cap with the pre-frayed front edge of the brim (always the pre-rolled version by the way). The only way I know of getting this kind of wear pattern on a hat brim is by repeatedly lurching/rocking forward into the wall while unsuccessfully trying to remain stable/erect in front of a bar urinal.
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