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post #1 of 77 Old 01-26-2020, 11:10 AM Thread Starter
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Is climate change a money maker?

You be the judge? https://youtu.be/MSkNIpNWX0k

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If it wasnt for climate change,, we would still be in the ice age
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Carbon Tax is a total scam... dreamed up by Al Gore and his buddies. Climate change is real, no doubt in my mind, but the influence us humans are having on the environment is very debateable. Supposedly the effect from volcanoes is much worse than our carbon emissions.
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I don’t believe any of it. My grandma told many years ago when she was married in the early 30’s in rural Alberta it was unusually warm that February. Anyone familiar with western Canada knows those are typically coldest months here. That year it was well on the plus side of temp guage so warm that green grass and flowers were sprouting up on the south side of her old house. She said very unusual but they enjoyed that year immensely. Quite a change from the water pail freezing over inside house. Lol
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...Supposedly the effect from volcanoes is much worse than our carbon emissions.
I understand that to be true but it was explained to me that the earth can re-absorb whatever comes out of volcanoes. That is, there is a balance, irrespective of how much volcanism there is in any given year.

What man produces is excess and cannot be absorbed. Thus, we are stealing Greta's childhood and she is not OK with that.

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I understand that to be true but it was explained to me that the earth can re-absorb whatever comes out of volcanoes. That is, there is a balance, irrespective of how much volcanism there is in any given year.

What man produces is excess and cannot be absorbed. Thus, we are stealing Greta's childhood and she is not OK with that.

That all might be true... how would we know? Glaciers have been receeding since before the industrial revolution (although that's accelerating!), part of a general post ice-age warming trend... and scientists say they can see at least 6 ice ages in the geological record. Maybe earth is returning to equilibrium, whatever that is. What's up with the increase in volcanic activity, and earthquakes!? I'm not imagining this, am I? Maybe that has everything to do with earth warming rapidly.
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If the governments would use the money to aid and assist development of existing technologies to even better tec instead of imposing impossible tax on them. The time to develop this tec doesn’t happen over night. I used to work and a coal burning generation station here and it had one of the most advanced coal burning and regeneration systems in the world brought in from finland I believe. It was said then that the emissions were cleaner than natural gas and if they would have been able to afford the next step up on the re-gen stack it would have been even cleaner. Our dead head government here got on the anti coal band wagon at decided coal is bad. Now switching everything to not as clean natural gas. However theres another catch in
Alberta now. Since the government imposed so many tax implications (carbon related)on the oil industry packed up and went back to USA. Leaving us with declining gas and oilfields. They will be short gas in a few years then what the hell do you suppose they will do?? Look at Canadian emissions footprint and in the grand scheme of things we are irrelevant in terms of pollution!!
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Yeah, but all y'all live within 200km of the border and all your pollution blows into our country. You're ruining my midlife and I'm not OK with that.

I've always liked you guys because of your sensible attitudes towards beer and because, twice now, you've volunteered to run for US president but if you keep this up I'm going to have to throw some stink-eye at you.

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No eco-Nazi has yet explained: How can the United States alone, PURIFY the entire world of, excessive carbon footprints, greenhouse gasses emissions, PLASTICS, and fossil fuel exploitation, when you've got your Indian, Russian, Korean, CHINESE, Brazilian, etc., industries polluting every moment of the century as hard as they can? Will banning plastic soda straws (in selected USA jurisdictions only), "SAVE THE PLANET?"

And, how many Swedish teenagers, sailing million-dollar racing yachts (each with two auxiliary engines) up the Swiss Alps to Davos, will it take to make a significant difference? (Greta sailed the ocean blue, she says, to save the carbon footprint of her airliner seat. Don't know how she got back to Europe.)

Good thing the electricity used to charge electric cars (and motorcycles) comes from non-fossil fuel power sources; electricity from coal- and oil-fired power plants is somehow filtered out. And . . . certainly no NUCLEAR energy-sourced power ever enters a Chevrolet "Volt" or Tesla battery bank . . .

If hypocrisy didn't exist, we'd have no crisy at all!
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