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post #11 of 19 Old 07-11-2018, 05:30 PM
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Ain't nobody ever done it with starting fluid (or other flammable aerosol fluid) and a fire source?

No kidding; works.

Besides ample Internet texts and videos, I've seen it done myself.

But have you Done It yourself, on a tire you own? I have, in the shop. Scares the jeepers out of me every time!

I wonder, do they make 'travel sized' cans of starting fluid?
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post #12 of 19 Old 07-11-2018, 05:35 PM
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But have you Done It yourself, on a tire you own? I have, in the shop. Scares the jeepers out of me every time!

I wonder, do they make 'travel sized' cans of starting fluid?
.....I'm just going to stick with my tubes! - seems much safer and more reliable.

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post #13 of 19 Old 07-11-2018, 06:35 PM
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... when I find a safety bead 21" rim and can justify the money will be sealing the front as well.
FFS, the KLR's front rim already is a tubeless 'safety' rim.

The rear is not. If you feel comfortable sealing the rear, what's stopping you in the front?

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But have you Done It yourself, on a tire you own? I have, in the shop. Scares the jeepers out of me every time!

I wonder, do they make 'travel sized' cans of starting fluid?
I've seen it done (second ADVMoto Rally), but have not performed the procedure personally (other than providing starting fluid for the exercise).

And, yes! To the best of my knowledge and belief, small cans of starting fluid are marketed. Otherwise, alternative flammable fluids may be available in smaller aerosol cans.

Here you go:

https://www.ruralking.com/pyroil-sta...-small-sfr-7-5

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FFS, the KLR's front rim already is a tubeless 'safety' rim.

The rear is not. If you feel comfortable sealing the rear, what's stopping you in the front?
Uhhhh, Tom. I'll suggest that you have that backwards.

It is the rear rim which has the tubeless style safety lips which the tubeless tires will 'Snap' up & over. A tube type rear tire is a looser fitting tire & will still readily unseat from the rear rim (especially while in motion).
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My bad, and you are correct. I confused the Tubliss system's existence for the front and not for the rear with the front being a safety bead and the rear not being one.

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It is the rear rim which has the tubeless style safety lips which the tubeless tires will 'Snap' up & over. A tube type rear tire is a looser fitting tire & will still readily unseat from the rear rim (especially while in motion).
Further to this; IME, when riding offroad you don't get as much "notice" that a tire is going flat like you do on the street due to the constantly changing feedback from the terrain......most flats I've gotten offroad weren't noticeable until they were completely flat. At that point the bead was almost always unseated. Not sure how much a tighter fitting tubeless tire would help but it couldn't hurt, I suppose. My experience trying to seat tubeless tires was on a Beta trials bike and after that, I decided I loved tubes! LOL


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I have ridden my KLR 2 up with a Flat Rear inner tube for about 4 miles on asphalt with a tubeless capable Pirelli tire. The tubeless capable beads were still full Seated when I got into town. And the tire was still useable!
I've forgotten the tire model #, but like the Avon Gripsters which eventually replaced the Pirelli's they are no longer available.

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So in anycases, I am loving the heck out of these Mitas 07's but am dreading a rear tire flat in the bush. Hopefully the gooey green stuff is going to get me home.
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