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post #1 of 12 Old 07-05-2018, 03:59 PM Thread Starter
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Mitas 07 tires 50/50 they say

So I took off my Kenda 270 tires after about 500 miles. They were really terrible on the road and I actually started getting the wobbles from them over 70mph. Cornering was terrible too as you could actually FEEL the knobs bending. Nevermind hitting a grove in the pavement, you are following that grove whether you like it or not.

So got the Mitas and they rock. Rock steady on the pavement. Haven't been off road with them yet but for my commute they are excellent. bout 75mph today and solid. cornering is again, solid.

What sucked about them was getting the rear tire on. It's a tubeless tire and the bead is tight as all get out. I busted one wire trying to get it on and cut the wire off at the rubber and should be fine now that it's seated but that's how hard I was prying these tires to get them on. Taking them off and putting them on in the middle of nowhere probably isn't happening. I had no special tools but still. You would be wrestling with them. So while I love em, I may not buy them again just because of that.

Ok, just my quick two minutes.

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post #2 of 12 Old 07-05-2018, 05:56 PM
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IME tire installation is (to quote a friend) 80% technique, 15% proper tools and 5% effort. .....not sure how many tires you've mounted and I'm not trying to offend but I've had to do maybe 100 - 200 tire changes.....maybe more, many at the track and some on the trail. The D606 rears I currently use are pretty stiff but I've not had any issues getting them on. That said I've not tried the Mitas E07's yet and tubeless are a bit harder than tube type tires to mount. Some Ruglyde or WD40 and a couple decent tire irons are my only "must haves".

You might want to try the Zip tie method (lots of videos, etc. if you google it). I tried it and it works OK but I haven't had a problem doing the same way I always do so I doubt I'll try it again.

Anyhow, let us know how those Mitas' hold up.

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I've done tires on at least four bikes. I'm certainly no tire changin expert. This one was a bear. The way I finally got it on was to undue the second side and start from where I had mucked up the bead. Then in a fit of rage was able to get the last four inches onto the rim. If I had a tire changing stations from harbor freight I would probably be ok. Doing it on the ground blows. Keeping the bead in the rim wasn't a problem as I had the bead buddy.
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Patroy75, I feel your pain on mounting the rear tire. I went through a similar experience when I mounted my first set of Mefos, although I didn't break the wire. Since then, I've figured out how to better keep the tire in the deep portion of the tire well to make things easier. A bead buddy for me didn't push the bead into the deeper part of the tire well far enough to really work all that well. I can say that mounting the Mefos is harder than mounting the D606s I ran for a bit. I don't have the Mitas tires yet. I'm very curious how they compare to the Mefos I've been running. My second set still has another 4-5,000 miles on them based on the first set I had, so won't know for a while how they compare to the Mitas tires. I've very curious because the tread pattern looks to be identical between the E-07s and the Mefos.
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A bead buddy for me didn't push the bead into the deeper part of the tire well far enough to really work all that well.

Ditto; I have bead buddies but I don't use them much.


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I will suggest that a broken bead should suggest the possibility/probability of a complete tire failure.

I've seen dirt bikers attempt to clamp the broken bead under the bead lock and the tire still failed.

I'll ride them til BALD. But I Will NOT ride them with actual damage.

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Curious as to why you got one E-07 Dakar (the front with the yellow stripe) and the regular E-07 for the rear?

I really like the E-07 Dakars... that's all I run on my Super Tenere and will probably go that route on my KLR when the Skinko 804/805's run out.

These don't have the center rib around the rear like the bigger bike versions do. that probably makes them better for the dirt, but not as long a lasting on the road.

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Patroy75, I feel your pain on mounting the rear tire. I went through a similar experience when I mounted my first set of Mefos, although I didn't break the wire. Since then, I've figured out how to better keep the tire in the deep portion of the tire well to make things easier. A bead buddy for me didn't push the bead into the deeper part of the tire well far enough to really work all that well. I can say that mounting the Mefos is harder than mounting the D606s I ran for a bit. I don't have the Mitas tires yet. I'm very curious how they compare to the Mefos I've been running. My second set still has another 4-5,000 miles on them based on the first set I had, so won't know for a while how they compare to the Mitas tires. I've very curious because the tread pattern looks to be identical between the E-07s and the Mefos.
" push the bead into the deeper part of the tire well" Do you mean the bead of the first side before starting the second side? Not following
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" push the bead into the deeper part of the tire well" Do you mean the bead of the first side before starting the second side? Not following
The part of the tire that's on the rim needs to be pushed in towards the deeper center part of the rim, especially opposite of the side you are working, to give more slack to the side being worked to slip over the tall outer side of the rim. this goes for any part of the tire that's between the 2 outer edges of the rim.
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The part of the tire that's on the rim needs to be pushed in towards the deeper center part of the rim, especially opposite of the side you are working, to give more slack to the side being worked to slip over the tall outer side of the rim. this goes for any part of the tire that's between the 2 outer edges of the rim.
I generally do that but maybe I should use tie wraps. I would love to have a harbor freight tire changer but have no good place for it.
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