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Unrealistic expectation, IMHO.

Why?

With market share/price point/and, one assumes, profitability; why would Kawasaki expend the capital and effort such upgrading would require?

How would this cost be justified to the widows and orphans with their life savings in Kawasaki stock?
 

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the justification would be increase kawi's share of the market by taking away from bmw and triumphs sales with a klr powered by an engine that is closer in performance.

and an FI thumper would prolly be justified by meeting upcoming stricter emissions standards. Think FI ninja 250 and Klx250 in europe.
 

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the justification would be increase kawi's share of the market by taking away from bmw and triumphs sales with a klr powered by an engine that is closer in performance.

and an FI thumper would prolly be justified by meeting upcoming stricter emissions standards. Think FI ninja 250 and Klx250 in europe.
You do not address PRICE POINT, eparker202.

As to capturing market share from BMW and Triumph, with all due respect to the KLR's many charms, even with a new fuel-injected engine, don't think the KLR measures up to the European competition in suspension and performance.

At what price would a BMW/Triumph/Husky/etc. customer be indifferent to those marques for a souped-up KLR, still "less than" the European bikes in performance, fit and finish?

No threat to carbureted engines so far; leastwise, not the DEATH PENALTY.

I could be terribly wrong; Kawasaki in my opinion will dance with who brung 'em; 20-plus years of standard production, tooling/fixtures/jigs amortization, and . . . a profitable niche in the market with goal share and profitability, and a killer price-point advantage; lost to greater or lesser degree with re-engineing and fuel injection adapataion.

Economics don't justify the upgrade (no corresponding net gain); capitalization of the initiative especially risky with the Tsunami crisis and economic downturn woes.

That said, I HOPE I'm wrong! :)
 

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Obviously its prolly not going to happen, hence the "hoping" in my first post, but i believe there really is possibility there. BMW doesnt have this all amazing suspension in their g650s and f650s. Its your everyday non adjustable front fork and preload and rebound adjustable rear suspension (sound familiar?). And if anyone has ever seen or been on a g650 its about the size of a 125cc dirt bike. Anyways, the g650 has 48 crank hp and the f650 has 71, but both have FI. If kawi was to put the versys motor in a klr they could sell it for around 7000 without any problems (ninja 650 is 7200 and versys is 7600 msrp with 500 off right now and both of these bikes have more expensive equipment, brakes, suspension at least on the versys). So you are getting 60 rear wheel hp from your new klr and you can sell it for 1700 less than a base g650 and 4700 less than a f650s. Besides the most snobby of individuals i would say the klr has increased its market share.
 

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Obviously its prolly not going to happen, hence the "hoping" in my first post, but i believe there really is possibility there. BMW doesnt have this all amazing suspension in their g650s and f650s. Its your everyday non adjustable front fork and preload and rebound adjustable rear suspension (sound familiar?). And if anyone has ever seen or been on a g650 its about the size of a 125cc dirt bike. Anyways, the g650 has 48 crank hp and the f650 has 71, but both have FI. If kawi was to put the versys motor in a klr they could sell it for around 7000 without any problems (ninja 650 is 7200 and versys is 7600 msrp with 500 off right now and both of these bikes have more expensive equipment, brakes, suspension at least on the versys). So you are getting 60 rear wheel hp from your new klr and you can sell it for 1700 less than a base g650 and 4700 less than a f650s. Besides the most snobby of individuals i would say the klr has increased its market share.


The problem I think is that the basic KLR platform is 25+ years old. Sticking a 60 horsepower motor in it would require major upgrades unless you want an 80's bike.

Unfortuantely I believe that the EPA regs will force carbs out fairly soon and unless Big K wants to invest more money in the KLR... it's done. Dual sport bikes are a very small percentage of motorcyle sales so there's not much incentive there.
 

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Dual sport bikes are a very small percentage of motorcyle sales so there's not much incentive there.
EXCEPTIONALLY valid point!

If Kawasaki Heavy Industries, by re-wickering the KLR's power plant, could capture the ENTIRE world's dual-sport market share 100 %, would the prize be worth its economic cost?

Would the initiative increase the bottom line over the status quo?

I'd imagine the green-eyeshade guys at Kawasaki have looked at this situation and concluded, "Uh, no."
 

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Dual Sport vs total motorcycle sales, not just klr sales. Here are the numbers thru 2011...

Dual Sport 15,876 Units
Off Road 37,123 Units
Street Bikes 187,565 Units
Scooter 18,198 Units
Totals 258,762 Units

15,876/258,762 = 0.061x100 = 6.1%
 

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Dual Sport vs total motorcycle sales, not just klr sales. Here are the numbers thru 2011...

Dual Sport 15,876 Units
Off Road 37,123 Units
Street Bikes 187,565 Units
Scooter 18,198 Units
Totals 258,762 Units

15,876/258,762 = 0.061x100 = 6.1%


There are still 2010 KLRs sitting on some dealers floors. I'm thinking that the increase in dual sport sales are mainly the Tiger and BMW 800, Super Tenere and Wee Strom.

I've heard somewhere that Kawasaki makes about 15-20K KLRs per year, it's hard to find actual production numbers.
 

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interesting. my dealer has sold all their klrs, i bought the last one. They are trying to get in some leftovers but cant find any in the area, New England.
 
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