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I want to order a headlight modulator for my 2014 klr, does anyone know if the dual h7's on the 2nd gen are japanese or Euro h7 sockets?
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I didnt expect to get any answers here, never been able to, which is why i spend my time at klr650.net forums and not here....
 

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Ouch, kinda harsh for only giving anyone an hour to answer ya.

Does it matter who made it? Isn't it all the same? And if you're using it with a modulator, wouldn't you wire it the same?

I thought the point of bulb type designation was to standardize the bulb ie; it shouldn't matter who makes the H7, it should be an H7.
 

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I didnt expect to get any answers here, never been able to, which is why i spend my time at klr650.net forums and not here....
I thought that was an odd comment, so I went and looked over your posts.

You've received prompt and multiple responses to every one of your questions, and you've been cultured enough to thank people for those responses.

I hope you'll stick around.

kyxon is correct; an H7 is an H7, be it a Chinese, German, or Japanese bulb. The Gen2 KLR does use an adapter from the harness to the bulb, but shouldn't get in the way of hooking up your modulator.

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I see your post on .net . I clicked the link for the product they suggested over there and it explains the difference between the two *different* H7s. I didn't know there were two.

In any case, you could measure yours and then you would know which you have BUT I would bet that it's the Japanese style since your Kawasaki is a Japanese bike. I've got a gen1 or I could go measure for you.
 

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kyxon -

Gah! You're right, we're talking bulb base, not bulb envelope.

moooboy -

The Gen2 has an adapter that adapts Japanese to European. The harness has Japanese connector spacing, but the bike uses European lamps via the adapter. I presume the modulator plugs into the harness and onto the bulb. You would need the Japanese version.

I will take some pictures for clarity.

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Here are two adapters, positioned so you can see the front and the back.

Here's the front side (the side the bulb plugs in to), showing the European spacing of 12.5mm:


And here is the back side, showing the Japanese 15.8mm spacing:


And here they are with a lamp plugged in:


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I didnt expect to get any answers here, never been able to, which is why i spend my time at klr650.net forums and not here....
How perceptive. You received no reply, one hour and seven minutes between posting your question and your complaint.

Regrettable.

The forum can only apologize for your inconvenience, and . . . refund your subscription payment.

We shall miss your knowledge, experience, and informed opinions you contributed to discussions on this website. KLR650.net's gain.
 

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How perceptive. You received no reply, one hour and seven minutes between posting your question and your complaint.

Regrettable.

The forum can only apologize for your inconvenience, and . . . refund your subscription payment.

We shall miss your knowledge, experience, and informed opinions you contributed to discussions on this website. KLR650.net's gain.
Sorry all, this wasn't the only place i posted my question and then i get thread hijackers with non related posts over and over and it pushes my questions back and they dont get noticed. I've been trying to get an answer on many forums for several days and was very frustrated.
Thanks to those that did, its much appreciated.
Anther question, does the adapter have to be used if someone didnt want to and use regular h7 bulbs?
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Anther question, does the adapter have to be used if someone didnt want to and use regular h7 bulbs?
thanks again
moooboy -

Yes, it does. The way the spring is configured, it needs the adapter to work. The base of the adapter is almost 9mm thick.

If you don't use the adapter then the spring only contacts the base of the bulb one one side, and loosely at that.The bulb is not firmly held and can flop about.

edit: I suppose you could cobble together a 9mm thick washer to go around the base of a Japanese H7 bulb and use one, but I don't think you'll ever find a Japanese H7 bulb; see below.

Tom
 

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This is interesting - I'm having trouble finding any real information on the 'Japanese H7 bulb'. Even my old standby wizard and know-it-all, Daniel Stern, has nothing. Candlepower has nothing, either.

I suspect that this bulb no longer exists, or exists in very limited markets, and that the H7 bulb is now standardized on the PX26d base. It's likely that anything out there that would require the Japanese version of the modulator is using an adapter, as the KLR does.

The only reason related to 'why would Kawasaki put a Japanese connector on the harness and then use an adapter' is "They have millions of them and the business is run by accountants who insist they be used up", Tom said frugally.

Tom
 

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Thanks for the research Tom. I really appreciate the effort you always put in to answering questions. An interesting quirk of the gen2!
 

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I don't care about the modulator. Wouldn't be rude enough to use one on other people but, I am curious about the H7 adapter question. Are we sure there are two versions of the H7 bulb. It seems to me that the adapter may be used because they needed a way to hold the flange of the bulb in the fixture and also something for the rubber boot to seal to.
 

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Thanks again for the help
Yes there are 2 H7's, japanese and Euro
 

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Thanks again for the help
Yes there are 2 H7's, japanese and Euro
moooboy,
Thank you all for the info.

Stock is simple, look up the part, order the correct part.
Alterations ,'really' compound the Problems!

Normk,
97 mods? Really?
We are all glad, You are a Master Mechanic/Electrician!
Are you still looking at 'cruise control'? Trying to break, 100 Mods?
How about the same members 'Electronic Fuel/Multi purpose Gauge'?
 

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moooboy,
I just re-read the Title of this thread, are you 'back-from the future'??
Are we still havin' the same 'stinkin' problems?!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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