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Ok, guy's, coming from street riding only, I have a street Caberg Helmet. What is the advantages of having an actual dirt bike helmet and goggles? Are the goggles comftorable and do the steam up if you start to sweat????

The only disadvantage of using my Caberg that I have noticed so far, is at speed and the clear visor up, I will get debris in my eye from time to time. I have to put the visor down when I know I will be going through any dust or pollen remenents and such!!

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More airflow, cooler at slower speeds, Dual pained goggles illiminates fogging when sweating or cold mornings and I think they look better.. Wear a bandana or face mask for dust and high speed bugs.

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Goggles are used in dirt riding to prevent dust, dirt and roost from coming up through the bottom of the helmet and entering the eyes. Yes they also protect front debris, but so would a visor. But a visor doesn't protect under debris, hence the only choice to use goggles for dirt bike riding.

Street riding does not have these concerns. Even low speed off roading does not have these concerns. I would say most of the riding people do with KLR's does not require goggles. Dirt helmets are also made to fit more snug so the helmet won't move much.

A proper fit dirt helmet will be uncomfortable for extended periods. In most aspects, goggles would be extremely annoying and uncomfortable for extended periods. They are constantly putting pressure on and rubbing against the face and nose. When you stop, you must pull the goggles off vs just flipping a visor or opening a flip up front. Then you have to get them on again if the band slips off the back. If you have glasses, you can forget about them, even the OTG ones because I have a pair for my KDX and they are uncomfortable as hell.

A visor allows adjustments at many positions to allow air flow without exposing the eyes. I've yet to experience a situation where I could not get adequate air flow to keep things cool.

Some people dislike flip up helmets, but they offer an advantage when stopping during dual sport rides. You just flip up the helmet to get more air. No need to remove a pair of goggles and then have to take the helmet completely off to get air while stopped.

There are advantages and disadvantages to either option. You already mentioned how debris can find it's way in if the visor is open for ventilation. That said, everyone should wear some type of eye protection even with a visor helmet. However, with a visor you won't need full on goggles, just a pair of sunglasses or other eye protection made to fit comfortably directly on your head, not over the helmet. You won't have to remove them in order to remove the helmet.




Now, one could say why not use low profile eye protection with a dirt helmet. This would leave your nose, cheeks and forehead vulnerable to head on debris which could sting like hell and cause an incident.

With a visor, you have the option of closing it while in heavy debris and then cracking it open again for ventilation. The likelyhood of high speed debris finding it's way through a visor ventilation gap isn't great even though it does and has happened to everyone. I count my times on one hand and really wouldn't consider any as necessarily high speed.
 

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I believe Wanderer said it all.... I prefer a full faced helmet, but really like the modular helmets that allow you to either open the visor or lift the whole front up. I ride both ways and this style of helmet allows for much easier use of glasses. It is nice to raise it up out of the way when toolin thru a back road and just taking in the scenery, then when the speed kicks in, put it back down and rock on. They are also great if you use a CamelBak Hydration unit.
 

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Thanks Wanderer, for the really excellent advantage/disavantage explanation!!

That tells me all I need to do is where the glasses that I had bought, (like the ones in you photo example) a long time ago, when I ride the klr!!!! That and my Caberg helmet!!!! :)

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my dirty helmet, etc.

When I got my KLR, I had an urge to wear a more dirt-oriented helmet. So I bought a KBC MX-style full-face and added MSR goggles with the accessory snap-on nose/cheek guard. The combo covers my face completely and it's flows way more air than my Shoei TZR. Really great in the summer, except for the time a huge dragonfly kamakazied into that big chin vent. Yuck. In cooler weather, I go back to the Shoei (and my old, heavy Hein-Gericke Dakar jacket.) At temps below 45, I add a neoprene face mask, and Widder electric vest & gloves. BTW, I'll ride as long as there's no ice on the road. But Aerostich sells tire-studding kits. Hmmm...
 
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